It's kind of weird seeing so many ppl on this site say things like "if it was my partner I would beat the shit out of someone" and similar stuff (see this thread: https://hexbear.net/post/183672). Not gonna lie it's kinda weird hearing that from nominal leftists. It sounds no different than some machismo person trying to start a fight cuz his honor was disrespected or something. This is what I said in that thread:

I mean I get the sentiment, but it also kinda feels like some kind of toxic machismo holdover. Kind of like “how dare you make fun of MY wife, if you insult her you basically insult ME!” I dunno it sounds kinda possessive, as if someone damaged your property, therefore damaged your pride.

So how do ppl justify this? I'm genuinely curious.

One thing I've seen some people say is that "he was standing up for someone." But that still sounds like some "you've disrespected m'lady sir, shall we duel?" shit. Like I see this stuff all the time from dads who get mad at their daughter's dates ("don't you dare lay a hand on her or I'll kill you") or brothers that are very possessive of girl family members ("if you mistreat my sister I'll kill you!") or even chuds getting triggered about the flag ("if you disrespect the flag I'll kill you!").

I dunno sounds very honor culture-y. Also sounds like retributive justice, which is fine I guess if you believe in that but we've seen the horrors that has wreaked on minority communities in places like the US. I dunno lemme know what you all think.

  • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I think there are levels of offense. I think insulting someone on a medical condition is more egregious than just a regular insult. I can understand violence coming about if it is an insult on a medical condition.

    I also can understand the concern about retributive justice but I don't necessarily think a slap is a particularly great offense for the one Chris Rock was doling out. It was a fair exchange.

    • queenjamie [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah the situation was a very public one between rich celebrities in Hollywood, but I wonder how many would actually do the same in a more normal setting. It could end up with the cops coming in and all sorts of nasty stuff...

      • HodgePodge [love/loves]
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        2 years ago

        It could end up with the cops coming in and all sorts of nasty stuff…

        I mean yeah, are you surprised people are living vicariously through this then?

        • queenjamie [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Good point, maybe it's just projection, but from what I've seen a lot of the comments in favor of slapping seem very sincere.

          • HodgePodge [love/loves]
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            2 years ago

            You can be sincere about wanting something to happen while also knowing you probably couldn't get away it.

            Example: murdering a pig

      • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        It could. It could not. I don't know. I spent a large portion of my 20's being a drunk non political person. Generally, if anything came to the level of altercations, the people I was around were able to squash the encounter without it interrupting into a full fight. I have broken up more than one fight and often not been alone. I think the violence alone isn't something that is ringing alarm bells for people who are left, but rather how are the community norms when an altercation breaks out?