• Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Also in an intangible world, there are no downsides to being a woman and no benefits for a masculine body.

      Hate and harrassment? There's a reason women hide their gender on the internet.

      • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Yup. Try playing an online game with a generic g*mer username, and then change your username to a "girly" one. The tone of 99% of your interactions immediately changes.

        • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I remember the first time I played a game online and offered to turn voice chat on because it was faster then typing the first thing that was said was "You know guys only want to speak to a girl if they want sex, right? Why bother?"

      • meme_monster [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        If people find out you are a dog on a forum or anonymous social media you will never hear the end of it. Expect to be harassed for your identity no matter who you are if you are foolish enough to reveal any personal aspects. Everyone gets trolled online.

        Are you really going to tell me these cishet "staring at an ass for 60 lvls" chuds use female avatars in solidarity with women?

        • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          If people find out you are a dog on a forum or anonymous social media you will never hear the end of it. Expect to be harassed for your identity no matter who you are

          thank you for recognizing my struggle 😞

        • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          What? No I don't think they do it for solidarity? Most people think they're dudes anyway? I wasn't talking about that.

          How is gender a "personal" detail? When was the last time someone rold you to get back into the kitchen for having a male voice in an online game? Trust me, there's a reason I don't turn voice chat on in online games but if I had a male voice I wouldn't think twice because that shit doesn't get you harassed. Are you going to tell me sexism doesn't exist next?

            • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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              3 years ago

              It's funny you should mention women switching to male avatars to avoid rape, because when I played online games I would pretend to be a dude because I would get treated better.

              Theres more to sexism then rape, is what I'm saying. Men that use female avatars in VR chat get to avoid the worst parts of sexism because everyone assumes they're male until proven otherwise "there are no women on the internet, tits or GTFO" is how the old saying goes, isn't it?

                • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  I dunno dude I think we're talking about two different things. Can attraction to anime girls be called benevolent sexism if no one looks like an anime girl in real life?

                  Wouldn't that be like saying furries get benevolent sexism too because they're also cute?

                  • meme_monster [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    No one looks like Jenna Jameson irl either but people react to her body in a sexual manner regardless. You are far off into the weeds if you are going to ignore the unreality of VR and the utility of large expressive, clear eyes and skin and how people will more easily interact with fictitious nonthreatening figures with exaggerated markers of health and beauty more readily than with an uncanny valley monstrosity.

                    And yes, people will want to fuck the cute bunny cop and are thus more likely to interact with her avatar than with a mangy, three-legged dog avatar. The lack of diseased and disabled avatars is disgustingingly ableist is it not?

                      • ugly_disabled_cishet [none/use name]
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                        3 years ago

                        Large eyes are a neotenous feature

                        If the cishet gender-switchers were all chomos then they'd sport 3000 year old dragon loli avatars, so I don't think neoteny is the primary function here. More likely large eyes serve a utility function being highly expressive. But the shape is also an indicator of health, they don't have bug-eyed, hairy, bloodshot, cataract clouded eyes for good reason.

                      • what_me_worry [none/use name]
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                        3 years ago

                        It’s not that people like to interact with beautiful/cute people. It’s that men like to interact with beautiful/cute women.

                        There's really no need to genderize this behavior. People of both genders are more likely to ignore a wheelchair bound leper avatar in favor of interacting with an anime cat girl, gay/hetero/cis or not.

      • boffa [ey/em,e/em/eir]
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        3 years ago

        it's a mix of both your comments. It's a thing in VR chat that practically none of the girls are irl girls. For the player it's keyhole glimpse into seeing yourself as a girl without having to be seen as a girl. They don't receive the full sexist treatment that a girl gamer would.

        lol that comment didn't deserve a delete tho