Its so bad, its bad for movie standards, its bad for marvel standards. Its such a giant mess, almost every aspect of it just doesnt work.

To start you have every single character quipping like the producers watched it with a timer in one hand. Its like a mandated every 60 second quip break, and every single character needs to get in on it. Theres actually a couple funny lines but wow they would land a lot better if this wasnt so constant.

Then you have the weird meme masculinity with the three spider men? "Hey bro, I love you" "no bro, you have to value yourself bro" like just stop. Save it for one scene or something, read a book any book.

The CGI is bottom of the barrel, its really scraping it. Lighting problems, proportions being way off, cartoon trucks suddenly being in screen, whole thing just looks awful. You cant possibly exaggerate how bad this movie looks, it has no visual soul at all.

It also suffers from video game writing, which is something Ive been noticing more and more in modern movies. Spider man shows up at Dr Stranges and he says "heres your quest spidey! I made you a wrist thing to go collect 6 bad guys, good luck!" Later in the film spider man unpacks a machine in his apartment that "can basically just build anything" dang thats convenient. Build a script.

Anyways I hated it, anyone who feels the need to defend these movies is 12. Theres no other explanation, I cannot believe adults are paying for these movies. I cannot believe this is our art culture from now until climate change wipes us out. 6 years from now theres going to be 1 movie that gets made a year, and itll make 9 billion dollars and cost 12 million to make because theyll use slave cgi assistants on every shot and people on twitter will tell you to shut your brain off.

  • CarlsJrMarx [love/loves, des/pair]
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    2 years ago

    The 3 Spider Men interacting should have been the highlight of the film but instead it was the worst part due to the absolutely atrocious dialogue. Felt more like the actors riffing than an actual script but who knows

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Thats what it felt like! The movie desperately needed any weight, every single scene had to force itself into comedy. Even a little moment like the back crack is just begging for a chance to breathe but everyone has to be so smug the whole time. It doesnt help that a spider man cartoon movie did this whole plot way better.

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      If you've been paying attention to Hollywood, which I have been just out of scrapings on YouTube and West Wing Thing, the hot thing for all most movie comedies is 'allowing the actors to improvise' aka not writing a script. This can work if the actors are talented improvisers, but most actors are not because they subscribe to the SNL style of 'saying the obvious thing in a funny voice is riffing' or 'repeating things' as comedy, instead of the better standbys of yes-ands and reurrucing thematic bits. That being said, improv really works better as theatre of the mind, and the fact thay this doesn't happen in TV shows is evidence that these chuckle fucks are trying to save money on the script.

      That being said, alot of Thor: Ragnarok was improv, but that worked because of the already established characters for those actors.