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it's gonna be hilarious when/ if planes stop landing in the US for connecting flights because it keeps doing stupid shit like this
At least that'll be one of those times an industry lobbying arm's interests align with human beings, which is the only permitted form of good
I don't think Americans have any reason to be worried any time soon. Most of the major airlines are owned and operated by American businesses or American investment groups. Harassment of individuals doesn't hurt their profitability.
I completely don't follow how the abortion thing fits with her reason for denial:
Gourley was told she would not be granted entry to the US and would be deported on the next flight back to Brisbane, five hours after arriving, because she had breached the conditions of the visa waiver program, which applies to citizens of Australia and many other countries making short visits to the US for business or tourism, but not regular employment.
A spokesperson for US Customs and Border Protection confirmed that the visa waiver program prohibited applicants from engaging “in any type of employment or get compensation for services rendered”. The rule, which appears to prohibit house-sitting for free accommodation, took Gourley completely by surprise and she said she now wanted to warn other Australians of the consequences of volunteering to house-sit or pet-sit in the US or neighbouring countries.
like wtf does whether or not she had an abortion have anything to do with anything? you're denying her visit because she's in breach of the visa-waiver rules - apparently free labor earning profit for American businesses isn't enough to get you entry into the US any longer. but there's no federal law prohibiting travel to the US following an abortion. so why even ask?
like I even get that the torture is self-justifying to these goons. but that still doesn't explain the thought process that brought the agent to the question. literally any port in a storm when you just want to intimidate, I guess?
She was going to canada, which is the crazier part. Like surely it should be up to Canadian border patrol to decode whether she should be allowed to stay. But, also, lol, how do you take a flight that long without checking whether you should lie about local accommodations?
They'd also have their own process. She specifically applied for a visa waiver under the ESTA program in the US, which allows you to stay in the US, Canada, or Mexico for up to 90 days. However, your fate is left to the whims of the border cops for the country you're currently entering—in this case, the US.
It's dumb, of course, but it's how it's intended to work: folks from white people countries can make extended trips with less scrutiny than a visa application.
I used to travel internationally for work for long stretches of time. It was somewhat of a gray area because I was definitely working for local companies while getting my salary from my employer back home. Rule number one when you were dealing with any immigration agents was never say the word "work", because it could get you deported immediately. As far as the authorities were concerned, I was "visiting clients", and any other details were confidential.
I know for conferences you have to say "business", because you're allowed to receive reimbursements for travel from American businesses without violating the business visa rules. And also you will not receive lodging or travel reimbursements if you accidentally day leisure, lol.
Business is okay to say, but 'work' is a huge no-no and will definitely lead to the immigration officials taking you to the little room in the back to "ask more questions", in the best of cases.
On the one hand, deporting women for having abortions is bad.
On the other hand, deporting White Australians is good
To be fair, the one Australian exchange student I knew in the states was the biggest American patriot I've ever met. She was really into US "culture" in the same way that weeaboos are into Japan, but it was much more disconcerting because she was friends with a bunch of leftists who told her all sorts of horror stories about our police state and our economic system. And then what really ended the loose friendship: she told me I was making a big deal out of nothing when I stopped talking to this guy after he asked a light-skinned African woman if there were "a lot of n-words in your part of the world?"
"He thought she was white and he was just trying to make an edgy joke." Then she told me if I really wanted to fight racism then I should start using the n-word too because it would take away the word's power, as if all I really wanted was an n-word pass from some Australian tourist with no understanding of racism's historical context in the states.
And so yeah, I wouldn't mind if she got turned away the next time she tries to visit the states.
:wtf-am-i-reading: people go to bat so hard to say the majority of white people aren't reactionary and then I read shit like this. After a certain number of cases it's a trend.
retroactive abortion
go back in time and falcon punch her mom
Meh. Its "newsworthy" because she's Mayo-blooded. But I'm old enough to remember Trump straight-up banning anyone entering from Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Myanmar, Nigeria, Sudan, and Tanzania. Or the time the Bush Admin had Maher Arar kidnapped and renditioned to Syria for torture.
An Australian getting caught in the dragnet is a consequence of the bureaucracy growing more brutal and less sophisticated. But the problem isn't Australians-Cheating. Its that we have this absurd draconian immigration system at all.
a smoldering, radioactive wasteland, managed by a few hundred feudal warlords, with a population 30% of what it used to be, standing between Mexico and Canada
random other anglo: "at least it's not China"
I honestly want to see their depths of denial, I want to see just where the limit is, if it even exists at all.
