"Fully automated gay space communism" is a fun thing to imagine but anyone with a serious belief in this is actually bonkers and has no material understanding that hard work and labor is the basis of everything in life. Very little happens without a person who makes it happen, and the futuristic sci fi world where robots do it completely disconnected of any human creator/controller is likely hundreds of years off if possible.
“Aim for the moon, so even if you miss you end up among the stars”
The point is that we should have a utopic ideal to strive for as a society. Will we ever achieve it? If yes not for hundreds of years. But every step towards it is a step in the right direction and it gives us something to work towards.
I agree it's a good goal, it's just not something I see happening within anyone's lifetime rn, especially with threats such as climate change that might require a scaling back till we can find safer alternatives.
Aaron Bastaani, the originator of the phrase Fully Automated Luxury Communism, argues it's way closer than you'd think and something to aim for in his book of the same title. I read it, it's not that good, but a really easy read and at least you'd have read someone arguing that side.
Not quite so. We could have something fairly close to it today. Fully automated farms are possible with the technology we have. Almost fully automated fairly easily so. It's cost less than what we spend to have the world we have now, but it would cost all we have. Still sounds like a good deal to be honest
Bookchin's Post Scarcity Anarchism was basically arguing that automation is so good that any revolution would create a post-scarcity, less work society. He also went on to argue that workplaces can and should be made more playful.
The dude was a sectarian asshole, but he was right about some things.
Also, the definition of anarchism as opposition to all social hierarchies is his, and everyone seems to forget that.
"Fully automated gay space communism" is a fun thing to imagine but anyone with a serious belief in this is actually bonkers and has no material understanding that hard work and labor is the basis of everything in life. Very little happens without a person who makes it happen, and the futuristic sci fi world where robots do it completely disconnected of any human creator/controller is likely hundreds of years off if possible.
“Aim for the moon, so even if you miss you end up among the stars”
The point is that we should have a utopic ideal to strive for as a society. Will we ever achieve it? If yes not for hundreds of years. But every step towards it is a step in the right direction and it gives us something to work towards.
I agree it's a good goal, it's just not something I see happening within anyone's lifetime rn, especially with threats such as climate change that might require a scaling back till we can find safer alternatives.
It's good to have a future to aspire towards.
Aaron Bastaani, the originator of the phrase Fully Automated Luxury Communism, argues it's way closer than you'd think and something to aim for in his book of the same title. I read it, it's not that good, but a really easy read and at least you'd have read someone arguing that side.
Not quite so. We could have something fairly close to it today. Fully automated farms are possible with the technology we have. Almost fully automated fairly easily so. It's cost less than what we spend to have the world we have now, but it would cost all we have. Still sounds like a good deal to be honest
Bookchin's Post Scarcity Anarchism was basically arguing that automation is so good that any revolution would create a post-scarcity, less work society. He also went on to argue that workplaces can and should be made more playful.
The dude was a sectarian asshole, but he was right about some things.
Also, the definition of anarchism as opposition to all social hierarchies is his, and everyone seems to forget that.