I've been noticing this more and more, there's an insistence that pointed economic or environmental criticisms of some consumption habit, usually almost exclusively partaken by the upper middle class and wealthier people, must actually secretly be a purely cultural critique. I'm sure these guys work for Exxon or some shit, lmao.

  • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    1500 is what I spent on my car. I'm not spending that on a week-long cruise. What are you even talking about?

    The scale of climate destruction requires dramatic infrastructural changes. I'm talking re-doing all our infrastructure to resemble Utrecht. I'm talking everyone going vegetarian. I'm talking banning single-use plastics and SUVs. I'm talking about requiring electronics to run for decades and banning the advertisements that make people want a new one every couple of years. You'd better believe I'm talking about turning every last cruise ship into a corral reef.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      1500 is what I spent on my car.

      I have no idea where you get a car for $1.5k in this market. My wife just got a RadRunner for about that price.

      The scale of climate destruction requires dramatic infrastructural changes. I’m talking re-doing all our infrastructure to resemble Utrecht.

      I mean, good luck with that. But I see people struggling to sell the idea of basic wind electricity in a market where its basically free money.

      I can't imagine a shift on that scale happening in my lifetime.

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I got it before the pandemic price hike. Older lady was finally selling her 1999 civic, below market at 2000. I haggled her down to 1500 because the suspension was garbage. I've had to replace the suspension but that was 300 bucks and mostly it runs great.

        I mean, good luck with that. But I see people struggling to sell the idea of basic wind electricity in a market where its basically free money.

        I mean, yeah, we're probably all going to die. It's just that like, if you don't want to die these are the kind of changes we have to make. If we're clear about that, we can be clear about our politics being a revolutionary project and not just a series of engineering and economics problems.