Don’t even know what it’s about yet

EDIT: I know what it’s about now. My mother is very proud

  • Pseudoplatanus22 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    K then, leave. Also, it's worth pointing out that this piece of internet drama was the first thing you saw when you opened up the Kiwifarms page on Hbomb. It's an ad-hom arguement I know, but when those guys bring that incident as a way of justifying their harassment of him, it should make you think twice about using it yourself. Unless you're a wrecker, which at this point I'm fairly sure you are.

    • 420stalin69
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      2 years ago

      So far the arguments I’ve seen here are what you admit is a pure ad hom and you write it anyway, “it was just one time”, and “wrecker” or some variant of that which is a personal attack that intentionally avoids the issue.

      So all shit arguments. Garbage.

      Shameful defense of this behavior which should never be defended.

      Shame on you.

      • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Harris is a sexist gamer Vaushite, and I say that as someone who has never watched his shit it’s just a vibe I get

        this is how you started the conversation. what are we supposed to be angry at again?

        • 420stalin69
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          2 years ago

          I’ll end this conversation but I’m not so petty as to assume everyone on this site is as comfortable with sexual assault as you are.

          Even though you pretend to speak for them you actually only speak for yourself.

          Rather I think it’s more likely you are refusing to treat this particular person as you would others because you enjoy his content which is a specifically individual flaw in you that I won’t ascribe to others.

          Hopefully you reconsider your approach since what you’re doing here is exactly what Hollywood did to Harvey Weinstein.

          Zero tolerance is the only correct approach. Hopefully you learn that once you’ve had the chance to reflect.

          • Hoyt [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            watching a youtuber's videos is the same as an agent sending women to be sexually assaulted by weinstein lol

            what do you wanna do buddy send a hit squad to his house

            • 420stalin69
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              2 years ago

              I expect zero tolerance towards people who use their power to suppress allegations of sexual assault.

              That’s a pretty straightforward expectation.

              The Hollywood shit is the code of silence that emerges because these people are put on a pedestal which is precisely what you are all doing here right now. You’re willing to condone the unacceptable because of a YouTube / streamer popularity contest.

              Shameful.

              • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                you started the conversation like this:

                Harris is a sexist gamer Vaushite, and I say that as someone who has never watched his shit it’s just a vibe I get

                then didn't mention "suppressing allegations" until way further down. Maybe you should begin a conversation by saying what you're actually upset about .

                • 420stalin69
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                  2 years ago

                  It was like my 3rd comment actually but the mass of replies reorders things.

                  Maybe if you gamers read the replies before deciding to jump on the bandwagon of defending their favorite streamer it wouldn’t be such a confusing thread.

              • Hoyt [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                to be clear your "zero tolerance" policy is just not watching his videos

                • 420stalin69
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                  2 years ago

                  That’s part of it sure.

                  Watching his vids and promoting them certainly isn’t zero tolerance.

                  Nor is attacking those who call him out on it. That’s downright defending it. Shameful.

          • Pseudoplatanus22 [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I appreciate that you're not responding to comments anymore, but I have had time to reflect, but I'd like to explain myself a bit further.

            I already knew about the accusations you made in your original post, because I read about it a year or two ago. This meant that I also knew that the situation had already been resolved by the parties involved, first because of the apology (which I understand the victim didn't like or accept) and secondly because of the fact that the person who attacked the victim has long since been removed as a mod on Hbomb's Discord over this issue. I know that Harris' actions were wrong to start with and that he should have believed the victim, but given that the incident happened several years ago and that no new accusations had come out, I didn't and still don't see the need to 'cancel' him even more than he already was at the time.

            I am also in no way comfortable with sexual assault, and agree that a zero tolreance approach is necessary; this is exactly the approach that was taken against him by plenty of people, and many of those people have since moved on, as I pointed out. You may disagree with this descision, as is your right, but that doesn't mean that the people who have done so are apologists for SA.