Unapologetic serial killer just keeps killing. They won’t stop. What do you do? You literally cannot reform them, they just ignore you. You have no answer for this because you refuse to step up and be brave enough to pull the trigger to save the lives of innocents
You won’t explain because you can’t because the obvious contradiction is too great for you to overcome with your idealist principle
Yeah I’m gonna be hostile to people who are pro-serial killer freedom and refuse to do what’s needed to save lives, it’s social murder to allow them to run amok and you won’t jail them or kill them
The big thing is abolition of prison, not abolition of systems to deal with crime. You can have a way to isolate and deal with criminals that allows for rehabilitation and reintegration. One that's aware of the ability for people to change. In this instance, there is no visible change or if the criminal has shown no desire or drive to rehabilitate themselves, then they'll remain in the system.
The idea is to abolish prison as a system of punishment and replace it with a system of rehabilitation, education, and treatment. One where someone needing to spend an extended period of time in there isn't a punishment, but a sign that they genuinely need some form of help.
Russia and Cuba have both experimented with this concept at different levels.
Ok so an unrepentant killer is still in indefinite incarceration and you have changed the name of the thing and believe you have changed the thing itself. Why play these shell games?
No, the difference is that instead of the killer being sentenced to serve a term, they have the ability to improve themselves and deal with whatever it was that made them murder people without just being allowed to roam unchecked until their social problem is delt with.
I will also point out that these types of killers tend to have issues that arise from conditions created by capitalism (in this guy's case, he was a criminal who killed anyone who threatened to rat). Those holdouts need their traumas and driving conditions found and dealt with, especially if they're a literal life or death threat to the people around them.
The situation here is that the killer remains unrepentant and still desires to kill or shows no remorse for their actions. This alone means that they are likely to remain a threat too others if they are allowed to roam freely (by their own admission in this case). Which necessitates indefinitely detention in a facility that is humane and will continue working with the individual to find their specific issue and do what they can to help them back into general society.
Basically replacing all prisons with mental health centers, schools, and communal or cooperative workplaces. Environments where people can more easily reform themselves and not feel like they're under a punitive timeline, but have a goal of growth through education, remunerated labor, and therapies.
This concept is so far removed from the current carceral system in most developed countries now that the only way to get to it is through total abolition of prisons though. There is nothing of value to be salvaged from the American prison system except the conversion of the land these prisons sit on into parks, memorial, or farmland. I don't even think a new system should be built on the footprint of the old given that most prisons are so incredibly isolated from anywhere.
ive got shit to do im not explaining this from first principals to someone whose already hostild
Unapologetic serial killer just keeps killing. They won’t stop. What do you do? You literally cannot reform them, they just ignore you. You have no answer for this because you refuse to step up and be brave enough to pull the trigger to save the lives of innocents
You won’t explain because you can’t because the obvious contradiction is too great for you to overcome with your idealist principle
Yeah I’m gonna be hostile to people who are pro-serial killer freedom and refuse to do what’s needed to save lives, it’s social murder to allow them to run amok and you won’t jail them or kill them
The big thing is abolition of prison, not abolition of systems to deal with crime. You can have a way to isolate and deal with criminals that allows for rehabilitation and reintegration. One that's aware of the ability for people to change. In this instance, there is no visible change or if the criminal has shown no desire or drive to rehabilitate themselves, then they'll remain in the system.
The idea is to abolish prison as a system of punishment and replace it with a system of rehabilitation, education, and treatment. One where someone needing to spend an extended period of time in there isn't a punishment, but a sign that they genuinely need some form of help.
Russia and Cuba have both experimented with this concept at different levels.
Ok so an unrepentant killer is still in indefinite incarceration and you have changed the name of the thing and believe you have changed the thing itself. Why play these shell games?
No, the difference is that instead of the killer being sentenced to serve a term, they have the ability to improve themselves and deal with whatever it was that made them murder people without just being allowed to roam unchecked until their social problem is delt with.
I will also point out that these types of killers tend to have issues that arise from conditions created by capitalism (in this guy's case, he was a criminal who killed anyone who threatened to rat). Those holdouts need their traumas and driving conditions found and dealt with, especially if they're a literal life or death threat to the people around them.
The situation here is that the killer remains unrepentant and still desires to kill or shows no remorse for their actions. This alone means that they are likely to remain a threat too others if they are allowed to roam freely (by their own admission in this case). Which necessitates indefinitely detention in a facility that is humane and will continue working with the individual to find their specific issue and do what they can to help them back into general society.
Basically replacing all prisons with mental health centers, schools, and communal or cooperative workplaces. Environments where people can more easily reform themselves and not feel like they're under a punitive timeline, but have a goal of growth through education, remunerated labor, and therapies.
This concept is so far removed from the current carceral system in most developed countries now that the only way to get to it is through total abolition of prisons though. There is nothing of value to be salvaged from the American prison system except the conversion of the land these prisons sit on into parks, memorial, or farmland. I don't even think a new system should be built on the footprint of the old given that most prisons are so incredibly isolated from anywhere.