I feel like I shouldn't be ignorant about stuff like that when they are playing more and more of a role on the world stage and the US is ramping up hostilities.

  • HeckHound [he/him]
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    Exactly. Citing their constitution is meaningless because we know many countries do not actually adhere to the text of their constitution, but we also can’t be sure they don’t adhere to theirs because we don’t have clear knowledge of conditions within the country.

    • Baader [he/him]
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      Why then critique a socialist state when you have no knowledge about their situation?

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        You shouldn't. But if you have no knowledge about their situation you also shouldn't praise them, which is what some people attempt to do by citing their constitution without actually knowing whether it is followed in practice. If we cannot get real knowledge about Korea then we should avoid praise or critique, except of course to defend them from imperialism.

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          Of course I can praise them. A socialist Constitution, even when implemented half as much as the us implements theirs (if history has taught us anything, there is no country behaving worse than the us), it's still a better country for the people than any neoliberal capitalist state.

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            The point being made of that you have no real evidence to believe that it’s actually any better for the working class there. Sure, they’re probably better than the US but that’s not saying much because so is everyone else. If we can’t trust any media about Korea then we should reserve judgement about whether the system there is good or not and stick to anti-imperialism.