Diane Sare was the Larouche senate* for NY congress so we've only got the finest of minds here :data-laughing:

this is not the win for their activism they think it is lmao

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      They're not actually anti-war, they just want to use it to slip in their fash talking points. "Anti-war" libertarians are more than fine with "non-violent" forms of class war, like starving the poor or letting a sick person suffer if they can't afford healthcare.

      It's the same as when rightys talk about freedom of speech, they don't actually mean it.

      • World_Wario_II [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Ok but they are at least posturing as anti-war. Where is the American left? We need to get our shit together this is embarrassing to get outflanked by these libertarian shitheads

        • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          It's easy to say "get your shit together" but the American right is well-funded and supported by the corrupt status quo. The American left would never be allowed to hold a platform like this. They are in the heart of the imperial machine. Oligarchs put hundreds of millions, maybe more, into funding the right and silencing the left. You might as well ask why the German left didn't just 'get their shit together' after the Nazis purged them.

          Look what they did to Sanders, and he's just a social Democrat, not even a proper leftist.

          We can't play by their rules and hold seminars out in the open. We have to be sneakier and more underground then that, or we need to start rioting again (in a videogame)

          • World_Wario_II [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I disagree, organizations like the DSA or other left formations could be holding anti-war rallies and organizing publicly similar to what happened during the Vietnam and Iraq wars but they are not. The reason they are not isn’t increased repression (repression was much more brutal during Cold War era Vietnam, where dogs were sicked on protesters and protesters beaten by thugs regularly). The reason is reduced interest and a fractured, unprincipled left that cannot decide whether supporting imperial war is good or not so they have settled on an uneasy peace of not talking about it.

            That uneasy, unprincipled moratorium on the Ukraine-Russia crisis amongst the Western left is cowardice and indicative of a fundamental weakness and failure in the principles of Western leftists and susceptibility to Liberal narratives. We desperately need a principled Marxist party that cuts through the unprincipled stagnation and gets directly to the heart of the issue: no world war, no arms shipments, no supporting Nazis and imperialists in an unholy alliance with western radlibs. Until WW3 is a more pressing issue for westerners than gas stove culture wars and other distractions they aren’t going to get it.

        • blue_lives_murder [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Where is the American left?

          There were decent anti-war protests outside congresscritters' homes from the left a year ago, they just aren't covered by RW media. if you don't know that's on you, not an indictment of 'the American left' you want it to be

          • World_Wario_II [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            a year ago

            So before the crisis escalated and westerners went into a bloodrage? We don’t need them when the going is easy, we need them when the nation is marching to war

            • blue_lives_murder [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              I was rounding up but please carry on being the one true leftist I'm sure your revolution is right around the corner

              • World_Wario_II [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                What part of “we need to get our shit together” makes you think I’m above this?