My (indigenous) girlfriend said something recently that I just have no clue how to grasp.

Disclaimer: I've always been really bad at explaining opinions/making arguments to people.

We are amerikkkan (sorry)

We we're talking about china and it's modern government. This had always been a sensitive topic for us: I usually state something to the effect of "there are some very real problems with china but the country is an overal good for not only the people but the whole world." Whilst they take strong problem with destruction of historical artifacts/art during the revolution (they are an art historian) and find it irredemable. The thing that really confused me recently was them equating the "nepalese cultural genocide" (I have no real knowledge of what they are talking about) to the genocide of their people. For added detail, they and their tribe are currently fighting for the preservation of what remains of the tribe's historical artifacts.

I don't want to add many personal details but it should suffice to say their tribe was almost completely wiped out.)

Am I just off base for not understanding what they are talking about here? This comparison seems completely wild to me and I don't know if I'm just being insensitive or something.

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Sorry bud, your girlfriend is an idealist who is on the losing end of the 'culture war'. The fact that she values cultural artifacts over human lives means that she has already accepted defeat, as humans who are alive can always make more cultural artifacts, therefore their lives and causes always take presidence. Isis was bad because they were commiting religious terrorism against the people, not because they were blowing up Persian monuments (although historically that sucks too). Fighting to preserve the past is an academics game, not one of an activist who believes in the future.

    As for the tibetans (not nepalese). There was no 'cultural genocide', there was a protracted civil war between the tibetan monarchists and the tibetan maoists, in which the maoists ended up making a deal to bring China in on their side and advocate for annexation (as it makes more sense economically to be connected with a country with a coast line than be landlocked and impoverished). Equating it to the actual genocide and shuffling of the Native Americans done by the U.S. is a gross misinterpretation of both histories. China often does have shitty foreign policy, often supporting stronger conservative factions over weaker, more strictly maoist ones, but the annexation of Tibet is arguably one of the few things they did that was good and was revolutionary correct, and the poverty reduction that has occured in Tibet as a result is a testament to that correct choice.

    • GaveUp [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      A lot of libs prioritize artifacts because "old artifacts" can never be made again (since new artifacts are not old), but humans can always reproduce/heal

      Capital and private property above all else, weeeeeee!!!!!