I didn't even like the games that much (the first one didn't appeal to me at all because the zombie cliche was already exhausting and it also had tiresome "grizzled middle aged man with violent tendencies and toxic masculine hangups must violently 'protect' daughter figure" chud ideology) and I've been considering watching this show.
The show is OK, though slightly horrible. I haven't watched the finale yet but every episode was either sadder or more shocking than the one before. Apocalypse and zombie stuff are almost a pretext for hard drama, honestly. All the actors are great but it's not something I'd binge watch, it's rough.
I think Videogamedunkey gave the best description of this game story dynamic: simple story, complex characters. The story is BS you can see in every version of a zombie and/or drama series, but the characters are really well created and complex and complex sympathy follows quickly. Not to say good people, but complex. "It's the opposite of Kingdom Hearts". I'd reocmmend it for this reason. It's rough, and you're right that he's pretty Chuddy, but still.
For anynoe who watched the last episode already:
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I think the final episode is the first where the character developments were not earned. I did not think it'd been developed enough to rampage a whole fucking hospital and village by that point. there were like 5 minutes of emotion about his daughter and then boom, he's murdering hundreds of people wanting to help because he cares. Unearned
I think you might be right about the last episode. It's harder for me to view the show objectively after playing the games and having that experience color my perception of Joel and Ellie's relationship.
It's not amazing but it's not bad. It's heartfelt, at least. I do enjoy lots of little details in it. For instance, someone on Twitter pointed out that the old native couple in episode 6 reminded them of their own native grandparents, with the kind of matter-of-fact way they address each other, and I loved the fact that
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the old lady made soup for the two people holding her hostage because it was cold out and she wanted them to be warm.
Like commiewithoutorgans said, the Dunkey sum-up is best. Nothing super complicated going on here, but that gives the characters room to grow and show off their texture and emotional depth.
It does do a much better job of getting across that, objectively, Joel is a fucking psycho at this point. Ice fucking cold sometimes. Pedro Pascal's pretty damn good.
I didn't even like the games that much (the first one didn't appeal to me at all because the zombie cliche was already exhausting and it also had tiresome "grizzled middle aged man with violent tendencies and toxic masculine hangups must violently 'protect' daughter figure" chud ideology) and I've been considering watching this show.
The show is OK, though slightly horrible. I haven't watched the finale yet but every episode was either sadder or more shocking than the one before. Apocalypse and zombie stuff are almost a pretext for hard drama, honestly. All the actors are great but it's not something I'd binge watch, it's rough.
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There's 7 times as many HBO subscribers as TLOU owners, and they don't need to generate new IP, but it's also not a "remake" or "reboot"
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I think Videogamedunkey gave the best description of this game story dynamic: simple story, complex characters. The story is BS you can see in every version of a zombie and/or drama series, but the characters are really well created and complex and complex sympathy follows quickly. Not to say good people, but complex. "It's the opposite of Kingdom Hearts". I'd reocmmend it for this reason. It's rough, and you're right that he's pretty Chuddy, but still.
For anynoe who watched the last episode already:
spoiler
I think the final episode is the first where the character developments were not earned. I did not think it'd been developed enough to rampage a whole fucking hospital and village by that point. there were like 5 minutes of emotion about his daughter and then boom, he's murdering hundreds of people wanting to help because he cares. Unearned
I think you might be right about the last episode. It's harder for me to view the show objectively after playing the games and having that experience color my perception of Joel and Ellie's relationship.
It's not amazing but it's not bad. It's heartfelt, at least. I do enjoy lots of little details in it. For instance, someone on Twitter pointed out that the old native couple in episode 6 reminded them of their own native grandparents, with the kind of matter-of-fact way they address each other, and I loved the fact that
spoiler
the old lady made soup for the two people holding her hostage because it was cold out and she wanted them to be warm.
Like commiewithoutorgans said, the Dunkey sum-up is best. Nothing super complicated going on here, but that gives the characters room to grow and show off their texture and emotional depth.
It does do a much better job of getting across that, objectively, Joel is a fucking psycho at this point. Ice fucking cold sometimes. Pedro Pascal's pretty damn good.
It's alright. The "angry dad out for vengeance" angle isn't as bad as Taken