Yes because we all can afford to move abroad and not try to improve material conditions. Also, not trying in first world countries will just give governments like the US and UK more leeway to oppress AES and third world countries. BE isn’t even apart of an org either.
BE genuinely has the emotional maturity of a toddler and it massively impacts my ability to take him seriously.
That aside, I fucking loathe this line of thinking, that we should just give up and let shit collapse. Letting the hardline fascists take over a nuclear power totally uncontested is a fucking terrible move no matter how you cut it. The western Left is absolutely in an awful position and has a significant level of opposition to its existence as anything other than performative the "healthcare pls" wing of the Democrats, but there is still a lot of good work that can be done.
In general, any time someone encourages giving up the fight I encourage viewing it with the utmost suspicion. Intentional or not, it's doing the work of the enemy.
I don't think moving is giving up, intrinsically. I think moving to the the peripheries could be good if done on an organizational level to get comrades with money and skills cooperating on projects internationally and boost up places that need it. I think people moving from the US to like Denmark or Canada is basically giving up. I can't really judge people for doing it in the short term simply because telling them they need sacrifice themselves for hope isn't necessarily going to make the world any better.
I don't like turbo-Sakaist analysis of the imperial core though. It seems to take a neolib understanding of GDP, wealth, etc. and then come to the same conclusion as those neolibs that everyone in the imperial core is beyond wealthy because of capitalism and everyone's benefitting from it. It seems Sakaists think that wealth is from unequal exchange and neolibs think it's due to the peripheries not adopting capitalism hard enough. If everything imperial core workers own is by debt and they can lose everything due to injury, economic downturn, landlord greed, etc. at any moment then they're not actually rich. And people are actually smart enough to recognize this, generally, when asked to think about it.
i wanna make clear that i agree with you that moving doesn't necessarily mean giving up, especially under the conditions you're outlining. my ire was more directed at grandiose statements like the one in the title; shit like "THE WESTERN LEFT WILL NEVER LOVE AGAIN" or whatever both flattens the nascent movements that do exist and deserve praise/support and discourages participation (under the logic that "there's no point anyway")
deleted by creator
Agreed.
deleted by creator
i can stand rude to an extent but he's such an incredibly petty asshole that i just can't bring myself to care about anything he has to say
i remember having watched a few videos of his and having a generally positive opinion before stumbling across him arguing with someone on some subreddit or another (they were disagreeing with some take he had idr), and he came off as such a wildly self-important dickhead that i genuinely wondered if it was someone just using his name on reddit to make him look bad
turns out that's literally just What He's Like.