You know I said a few months ago that Andor was so good it made me re-evaluate my opinion on the Mandalorian. I guess the showrunners felt the same way because that last episode reeks hard of them trying and FAILING to do political intrigue.

Just putting aside the fact that every single person in the "Amnesty Program" should have faced a firing squad: whose bright fucking idea was it to house them all together???? "Oh golly gee wiz, let's just stuck a whole bunch of space fascists and collaborators in a tiny little neighborhood. Surely nothing will go wrong!!!" I suppose its technically canonical that the new republic is incompetent as shit given how things play out with the first order but sheesh guys.

Just stick to what you know guys. More pew pew and vroom vroom. Leave the political drama to the adult writers in the room. You will never ever be as good as Andor....and that is OK.

  • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    So I never watched clone wars and am not up to date with a ton of that continuity. My familiarity comes from legends and specifically the Kotor games mostly. I definitely get the appeal they would have to fascists...but are they themselves explicitly fasch? I read them more as like space mongols or something.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Definitely depends on the leader at the time.

      Spoilers for Clone Wars

      In Clone Wars, Mandalore has recently come out of a civil war, banished the worst fascists to the moon, and elected a pacifist leader, Satine, who led a coalition of neutral systems opposed to the Clone War. She later gets killed and overthrown by the aforementioned fascists (a group called Death Watch) assisted by Darth Maul, who immediately gets overthrown by Sidious. I’m pretty sure Death Watch’s Mandalore folds into the new Empire but after a few years Mandalore gets a bit too uppity and the Empire nukes the whole planet. Also Satine and Obi Wan Kenobi 100% banged.

      • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        See...people tell me clone wars is awesome and I'm missing out by not watching it...but then I read this stuff and I'm like "...but am I really?"

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Oh if that’s the stuff that makes you go “Idk if I should watch it” then you definitely should not lmao, those are some of the best episodes of the whole series. My description is pretty reductive though.

          If you are considering watching it, I’d recommend following a filler list because there are some arcs that are just not good and don’t give any important information. I’m honestly pretty lukewarm on the show as a whole but the last 4 episodes of the final season are some of my favorite episodes in all of television, not even just animated shows, so if you like Star Wars I do recommend it. And Rebels just rules and Clone Wars sets up a lot of stuff for it.

          I’d also recommend listing to A More Civilized Age along with it if you like podcasts, it’s a leftist criticism podcast of the show (which is currently playing in my headphones)

        • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Just watch the Gendy version from the early 00s

          Is it just Samurai Jack but Star Wars? Yes

          Is it the best Star Wars media released between the original trilogy and Andor? Also yes

    • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah you can see it as either depending on the Mandalor at the time (the person that becomes their Warlord or whatever). Like they cool with other people/species becoming mandos and such but there's also the fact that they fluctuate between some form of permanent warrior caste (even though Boba Fett is from a mando clan of farmers), to mercenaries, to just a straight up evil empire or assistants to an evil empire since they teamed up with the Sith in Kotor lore. It's honestly a mess and instead of trying to tackle and breakdown aspects of such a weird, stratified, violent, yet also at times open, society would have been cool but instead they got the Disney retcon/simplification ray.

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      2 years ago

      space mongols

      this is a good read, there used to be a nomadic component of the worldbuilding but im quite unsure if that's still true. but in the same way as mognols, you've got the contrast of brutal conquerors who're very syncretic with alien species & cultures but only so long as they abide a few iron principle (chief among them being bowing to the Khan-i mean mandalor)