So there are parts of it that I really like. The focus on dreams and the horror in them was super cool. I like hearing about the world and the different cultures and how different everyone speaks and dresses. I have liked the character development too, especially Perrin's. I actually felt like I related to his wolf stuff as a trans person.

But hooooooollllyyy shit how about a cis het sit down honey you need to fucking relax. Men and women aren't seperate fucking species you nonce. Also why can no one ever say what they mean?? In general but especially men and womens interactions are like halfway between a conversation and a discussion of platonic forms. I can't fucking handle it. It's bad enough that he can't seem to describe women without first establishing their relationship to men, and that he sees liking men as a moral thing, and everything I've mentioned so far.

But when Mr. Jordan decided to include dom/sub dynamics into THE FUCKING MAGIC SYSTEM I sincerely ragequit. FOR FUCKS SAKE. Not only that but a woman having to ask a man is treated like its a degrading, dishonorable thing, and the women who just sorta ask and want things like affection and sex are seen as strange and other! A woman flirted with a man you haven't even confessed to and you are contemplating kidnapping?? Murder??

AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

anyway the books really are neat but I am 50 shades of gay and I don't think it's going to get any better. Maybe when sanderson takes over it does but those are just the last two books soooooooooooo. I guess I could read summaries and then go to the last two books but I could also just read another series, considering red rising or malazaan book of the fallen. or kingkiller chronicles.

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

if anyone does want to vouch for it feel free, I'm already feeling pretty stockholmy

  • Runcible [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    I actually personally buy into the idea he was trying to do a bit more of an egalitarian society but failed because of his biases.

    I do think the setting starts with the premise of "what if original sin but it was the dude" and then kinda runs with it. The magic system needed to be different for it to work thematically but the sub/dom stuff is not real defensible.

    Spoiler:

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    For what it's worth the book has characters who are reincarnated as the opposite sex and still use the original side of the source they channeled with a fairly nebulous argument about it being linked to the soul and I've seen some fairly generous arguments that it was meant to be trans positive. This is weakened by the characters, imo.

    He strikes me as well intentioned but the execution is problematic.

    edit: Also none of the stuff that bothers you now gets better.