Absolute cum stain of a film, ruined an already brutally stupid premise set up by TFA. Eat my whole ass hexbear, I’m not going to hitch my ride to this shit because it tripped half way into making a good point with some vaguely sucdem rhetoric.
Just trash all around, its sequel was king trash only because this bullshit laid the groundwork for trash. A fucking structural engineer had to design a solid trash foundation for that steaming pile of shit ROS. Most boring movie I’ve seen in theaters. 3+ hours of diahrrea o stg if i see another post praising this movie I’m going to eat my shit. Shape the fuck up, this movie sucks.
The more the movie is analyzed, the more it crumbles apart, even after it is rubble.
The time passage didn't make sense either. If I remember correctly the "chase" in space is taking place over a few hours, but Rey is training on the planet for days. This wouldn't be an issue, except her and Kylo keep talking to eachother through the force multiple times.
RJ really was the perfect guy to hand an established franchise and mangle it, by trying to be clever in surprising fans with scrambled up themes and character motivations. That can work if you understand your source material, but it clearly plays out like someone who wanted to mock fans and make a different movie.
I remember liking it when I first left the theater, but it really has collapsed utterly under scrutiny.
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I will give him credit that when he isn't trying to "subvert expectations" he actually is a competent film maker. Sure things in Looper don't make sense but I still enjoyed the movie. I loved Knives Out and Glass Onion is alright. His presumably cancelled trilogy might have been better if he was able to write everything from the beginning.
While I don't think he intended to troll the Star Wars fanbase, it seems he felt he had a better understanding of Star Wars than he actually had. Heck he kills Ackbar off screen despite the character's popularity. He loves misdirection and lamp-shading so much that he didn't respect the source material. It feels like such a weird take on Star Wars as part of a personal film making experiment. He does call attention to the MIC of Star Wars, but the series is supposed to be a struggle of clearly defined good and evil. Making the waters a bit muddy is actually doing the franchise a bit of a disservice as it is supposed to be primarily science fantasy instead of science fiction. It's sort of like asking ethical questions about the Pokemon universe about the enslavement and organized dog-fighting of Pokemon like Black-White did. It just kind of kneecaps the story by pointing out a major unresolved problem with what are supposed to be the protagonists.
The original trilogy didn't bring to light how and where the Rebel Alliance got all of their weapons and ships. It simply didn't matter when the opponent was the Empire. Raising the issue in TLJ as well as the concept of a "grey jedi" sort of betrays the appeal of what is supposed to be a mainline Star Wars film that is a swashbuckling space adventure about fighting against fascist family with friends you trust.
There is supposed to be a romance and escapism that the main story lives in. The expanded universe can flesh things out more for people who want more context. The funny thing with the TLJ is that it hasn't generated much discussion about what was in the film like Rian had hoped. Instead, the discussion has been about why the film was the way it was.