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        • christianleftist [none/use name]
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          That's also a historical thing that needs to be looked at in it's cultural and historical context, which is the historical materialist way to analyze it tbh. We can't use "presentism" when looking at things in the past:

          https://yaqeeninstitute.org/read/paper/understanding-aishas-age-an-interdisciplinary-approach

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          Your own source says this:

          So, the Prophet’s marriage to Ayesha was nothing out of the ordinary for the time in which this marriage took place. Insisting on 21st century (Western) ideas on morality and marriage, which evolved in their own right, for a very different time and place is an ahistorical approach.

          https://islamfyi.princeton.edu/is-it-true-that-muhammad-married-a-child-bride-by-the-name-of-ayesha-when-he-was-53-and-she-was-9-years-old-if-so-how-do-muslims-justify-this-from-their-exemplary-prophet/

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            • christianleftist [none/use name]
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              I used a deliberately “generous” source that still admits that the event happened. I could have used a much more incendiary one, but I didn’t.

              I didn't deny it, I just pointed out that even in that case it's still ahistorical to apply our modern standards to it, which even your source admits.

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    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      Just wanted to say you're right. "Culturally accepted" might help a person understand something, but it in no way excuses that thing. The whole modern conception of consent exists precisely because several generations of feminists critiqued what was culturally accepted until mainstream society finally realized that they were tacitly allowing some disgusting shit to happen and turned against it.

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