It's a turbo-libertarian white guy in Thailand, you could probably just assume the sex crimes he's committed and sentence him entirely justly
Too many people here have a dogmatic belief that if it's culturally acceptable or historically acceptable that it must be cool and good and any disapproval of it isn't materialist(tm).
What kind of leftism is even possible if all of the excesses and predations of the god kings, czars, and ruling caste freaks can all be excused under "it is/was culturally acceptable at the time?" :lenin-rage:
he seems more like the sort who came to thailand to run a night club
Education run by the government, kinda nonsensical masking behaviors. So the worst thing about Thailand is that it's like everywhere else?
I literally don't trust this guy's opinion about Thai people or anyone's masking behaviour. He'll say or think anything to feel better about being a COVID minimiser.
It's not privatized enough! Private schools would encourage free thinking! This time it will work. Trust me. :libertarian-approaching:
private sector good
public service bad
me very smart :margaret-thatcher:
Comes to Thailand
Everyone speaks Thai
Thai people under 20 want nothing to do with him, no interest in talking to him
must be the gov't fault he has to pay for sex.
Thai people
under 20want nothing to do with him, no interest in talking to himFTFY
Culturally acceptable expat-possible-sexpat hard at work being :libertarian-approaching:
Ya schools are bad because the gobernment does them. Using that to justify his racist ideas was a higher level of :brainworms:
Going to a private school owned by corpos will surely encourage free thinking! :galaxy-brain:
FFS. If private schools in England are so damn good, why the fuck does he talk so damn poorly? He seems to struggle making words work.
Maybe he's just an arrogant asshole, but I can't help suspecting that he is there because he sees the locals as impressionable and wants to take advantage of them. :kombucha-disgust:
Ya I think so.
I imagine that a country full of native English speakers would have a much easier time telling guys like this to fuck off and die. I super feel for the locals there. I bet people try to shoo him away constantly.
that guy did not go to an English private school his accent is all wrong for that I think you might also just be assuming the guy's regional accent is him not being able to speak.
Dunno, but "think for yourselves, people man" at the end sounds pretty bad and chuddy.
oh it is he's insufferable but his accent is just what regular people in parts of England sound like and if he was of the social class that are privately educated he would sound entirely different
he's putting out some classic tory talking points but it's the british equivalent of American boomer standard statements
I'm not talking about his accent, comrade.
The private school thing was a joke, since he bashed government schooling so hard.
expat-possible-sexpat
I think the chances of this guy not being a sexpat are almost zero.
this guy is exactly what you would expect from an English person in Thailand
people generally do not speak to random man-on-the-street acts at length. If the interaction contains extended dialogue you are almost guaranteed to be watching someone who’s thirsting for attention
That said you could probably make an awful compilation out of these types of videos they’ve been running rampant. They are balanced by the high effort and harmless travel vlogs you can find on YouTube, I think
Shit like this is why some other recent thread that expected, I don't know, praise and support for some old rich French fuck going to China and hooking up with someone less than half his age put me off.
That was before the "historically and culturally accepted" apologia in its comments that tried to present another example of "historically and culturally accepted" behavior being that of a 50+ year old marrying a 9 year old. Apparently according to that mysterious no prior listed post history poster, I'm a racist, mentally ill (which is a loathsome and contemptible thing, amirite fellow lefists? :sus-soviet: ), and also have delusions of being a white savior because I wasn't clapping like a seal over either arrangement. :kombucha-disgust:
The french dude is shit but the girl is 30, she can make her own decisions, what makes that situation sus is that the dude is a rich artist and probably wouldnt have any pull without that fake bullshit
The age didn't bother me nearly as much as the rich French asshole being almost certainly a sexpat all along. I didn't really have much to say to that on its own, even if I didn't particularly like it.
The much worse issue was the concern trolling followup in that thread, that had the audacity to bring up a religious figurehead whose first wife was significantly older than him (not a big deal all on its own, but please keep reading) as some demonstration of why no one was allowed to ever criticize age disparities or related concerns about rich assholes claiming foreign brides or the like if it's "culturally accepted" or "historically normal" or bullshit excuses like that that could potentially excuse everything from the Czars and the Sun Kings' depravities to the Dalai Lama's recent :epstein: antics. Tibetan tradition, after all. :sus-soviet:
When I brought up the most relevant counterpoint, that that same figurehead's third wife was fucking nine years old, that's where the :frothingfash: began. Can't criticize historical and/or culturally accepted predatory behavior without being a racist, mentally ill, and/or a white savior! :frothingfash:
You can definitely criticize but I just think the confusion is that you cant judge an old world and an old way of thinking entirely from your position and standards in 2023. Im very likely going to live past 40 and not die from diarrhea
you cant judge an old world and an old way of thinking entirely from your position and standards in 2023
That can be stretched basically into infinity. The behavior of the old world of sun kings, czars, and the like was culturally accepted in their times, too, until they were not.
And centuries of apologia about a certain religious figurehead's 9 year old child bride suggest that the "cultural acceptance" wasn't really universally agreed upon if the controversy went on that much longer afterward.
Im also saying that you can criticize them its just both side of these things kind of ring true
I disagree with the notion of "both sides" being universally equally right and wrong in most cases, especially because the status quo is typically favored by such pretenses.
So?
It doesn't really invalidate what I said whatsoever and "dying before 40" wasn't a universal constant even in antiquity.
If you were applying that to the example I gave, clearly that 50+ year old man by your own claims would be at death's door while "consummating" that child bride, which sounds even worse. Also, it isn't just about 2023; there's centuries of controversy about that child bride that go all the way back to the big schism in the religion that same leader founded.
Is that a request to disengage? If it is just say so, because otherwise I don't see what I need to stop unless it's just your personal request to not engage with you further.
I just feel like you failed to consider people died of diarrhea, something that I get once a week minimum as a red meated American
At this point I'm not even sure how it connects to what you were saying or what I was saying for that matter.
Is that another bit?
I just feel like youre insanely privileged as a modern diarrhea survivor to be judging a medieval pedophile
That's an incredibly radioactive take as far as I'm concerned. No amount of "wow medical technology sure is great!" magically makes 9 year old child brides or Tibetan failsons that want small boys to suck their tongues or any other "culturally/historically accepted" practices by the powerful acceptable to me.
People doing bad things can be understood in the framework they took place in, but excusing them with blank-check abandon is bullshit to me.
I think this reply chain is winding down anyway. I better head off to work.
I think the joke was that they didn't want to continue the conversation and just wanted to break the tension by talking about diarrhea instead.
I like that he's nice and thoughtful enough to consider this but I think he's making a molehill out of nothing and also the likely uintended insinuation that users, here of all places, are trying to vindicate bad power dynamics or pedophilia. Have some faith in the users here.
Have faith in the users? The fuck is that some kinda sacrilege? I'm not your god, chum. 😤
I, on the other hand, am a deity of some sort and I want you to put some respect on my name.
The French guy met the woman when she was hired by a third party as his translator. Sex tourism is not the only conceivable reason someone would go to asia
As a middle aged white guy, I'm unironically very sorry that you had to go through that. I'm kinda surprised that that shit was able to make it though on Hexbear. Maybe the guy had his own questionable relationship to feel bad about???
The age divided by 2 plus 7 rule most definitely applies as a hard limit if you're a white guy marrying in the global south, although honestly it probably needs to be tighter, like no less than 15% of the guy's age.
I’m kinda surprised that that shit was able to make it though on Hexbear.
There wasn't much else to that particular reply chain except a self-admitted "made an account to parrot what was just said because they're that mad that a 50+ year old religious leader having a 9 year old child bride was being criticized" second rage post, and then a bunch of mysterious and near-instant upbears shooting it into the 11-15 range in a matter of minutes.
I think some wreckers are very devoted to their hobby.
I think some wreckers are very devoted to their hobby.
Ya probably. Dunno, but if a new account says something terrible here, I just report and ignore. Although I definitely get your rage.
Hexbear does need an ignore button for sure. I mean, yes, I did ignore both the wrecker and their sockpuppet after a few replies, but I'm kind of expecting some more mysterious sleeper accounts filling my inbox for a day or two. :frothingfash:
I think they felt you were being islamophobic especially as you brought up the child bride stuff out of nowhere as a counter to them talking about Islam's attitude to age differences in relationships between adults
That religious leader's first marriage was brought up first as some sterling example of age disparities in relationships (alongside the usual "touch grass" condescension) and the fact that the third marriage to the 9 year old child bride was omitted, probably with the assumption that no one would bring it up and just nod along, was too glaring for me to not say something about it.
a lot of that is pretty heavily disputed it was not exactly a time of great record keeping with regard to age
It is also worth pointing out that Islam specifically says that marriage is only valid if it is between consenting adults
I appreciate the alternative account and appreciate that you presented it in good faith. I honestly do truly want to believe it at this point.
teachers saying their students are idiots
ITS YOUR JOB TO AMEND THIS :screm3:
