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  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Tbf China has decided to hop on the second train

    I still say the person responsible for that decision should be fucking killed, and anyone complaining about zero covid can swap places with me. I’ll live in China under zero covid, you can come die in Florida with mandatory covid.

    • ppb [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      you can come die in Florida with mandatory covid

      mandatory covid, mandatory genital inspections, mandatory swamps, increasingly dangerous hurricanes, uninsurable houses...

      • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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        1 year ago

        uninsurable houses…

        I love how everyone is seeing this happen, but if you posit that insurance companies are abandoning the state and we probably should too, you're looked at like a crackpot.

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          There is still new construction happening in Miami.

          There is still new construction happening in Miami.

          Will they be able to insure those new beachfront buildings? God no, the people who know how to do math think they’re insane. But they’re still building new construction in Miami.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        1 year ago

        Yes, but I really need to go visit Disneyland so I can support gay people.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I think they did that in response to the massive protests that were occuring over the lockdown. The Chinese system does seem to listen to protestors

          • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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            1 year ago

            I still don’t understand this argument. China’s economy did significantly better than the countries that let covid spread. Most countries had their economies shrink during a time when China’s grew, and the difference was zero covid.

            Zero covid IS the economically sane policy. Sick people are expensive.

              • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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                1 year ago

                I can certainly see an argument for changing the details of zero-covid. Especially when it comes to different localities responding differently.

                But they went from amazing if a bit too strict protections to nearly nothing and a lot of people have already died because of it, and I don’t see how China will avoid the same problem of having millions of newly disabled people with long-covid. And again, at least based on the numbers that the west use zero-covid was a much more economically sound policy than let-it-rip. China’s economy grew, others shrank.

      • KnockYourSocksOff [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Even western media on the ground report that the number of Chinese protestors who want regime change are low, while the majority are just pissed with the local government or simply want rules to be changed with the central government.

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        1 year ago

        I remember those protests being incredibly small and blown up by western media

        To me it sounds exactly like the US lifting mask mandates because of a small group of :frothingfash: whining about it.

        China shouldn’t listen to its :covid-cool::frothingfash: either.

    • KnockYourSocksOff [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      I think the difference is that China tried. They failed at lockdowns because they closed down a lot of places over a few infections, then decided to open everything back up which caused problems for their domestic supply chain.

      The US gave us thoughts and prayers and 100,000+ people died.

  • MF_COOM [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I think it's more like:

    Communism bad because tyranny

    I don't think most anticommunists think the majority was in any way empowered under communism. Honestly there's plenty of people on the left even who don't even think the majority even benefited, much less had any say on the matter

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      I don’t think most anticommunists think the majority was in any way empowered under communism.

      I see libertarians go off on this shit, constantly.

      "I just want to be left alone! I just want to be left alone!" right up until they can't get through airport security at which point its "How dare you keep me from co-mingling with 200 other airplane passengers in a large privately owned space!"

      Honestly there’s plenty of people on the left even who don’t even think the majority even benefited, much less had any say on the matter

      Communism always happens in a vacuum. People are just minding their own business, living normal happy lives, doing their Qigong exercises so they can be in perfect health at 300 years old, and then one day a big guy in a Mao Suit kicks down the door and waves a red book in your face while screaming "We're doing Communism now whether you like it or not!" Then everyone in your country starves to death, communism fails, and a bunch of CATO Institute fellows wring their hands and shake their heads wishing there was something they could have done if they weren't all such die-hard anti-interventionists.

      That's how this shit is always presented, historically speaking. We did the American Revolution (good) and then there was a French Revolution (bad) and then an American Civil War (debatable) and then nothing happened for a century. And then WW2 broke out. And then Communism. And now we're at the End of History because Communism Failed. Unless, of course, China decides to team up with Russia to do Communism 2: The Worst One.

      That's History In A Nutshell. Everyone knows it, even the stupid leftists who think that maybe the Civil Rights movement didn't go far enough.

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    "One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic"

    -Liberals explaining why it's ok for them to be going to packed bars during a pandemic