I enjoyed reading most of the discussion here, it's reinforced to me the need to read more theory because simply being for abortion and a safety social net isn't enough as far as societal reframing goes, and the patriarchal gender roles cemented into the "care giver" and "provider" are still running through most of this conversation--not a criticism just makesme want to read more theory. Also just want to say that men can also give birth, not sure that's being recognized as much here