I lose my cool when people say the same old lib talking points about how awful mass shootings are and how we need "common sense" gun control. It's the combination of smarmy :maybe-later-honey: :maybe-later-kiddo: attitude and unwillingness to consider the implications of policy, or the history of similar disarming of leftists and vulnerable groups. So I get a little hot and I bully them. Then, they play the "actually I'm [member of vulnerable group] " or "my sibling died to gun violence" card. Great so now I'm an asshole.

Am I wrong to bully people for shallow thinking and smug attitudes. Do I stoop to their style of rhetoric playing up atrocities like the Shanghai Massacre of disarmed leftists by the KMT or how cops kill and abuse black people with impunity after disarming the Black Panthers with the Mulford Act? These fools think these cops will protect us? It's so frustrating.

idk maybe they're just radlibs in leftist spaces

  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Americans are soo gunbrained. The way Americans talk about guns and how rest of the world talks about it is very different. This thread feels very surreal.

    • MoneyIsTheDeepState [comrade/them,he/him]
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      2 years ago

      We, the US, could have half of our guns disappear and still be roughly tied for the most guns per capita

      Guns are central to US identity from its very inception, and selective gun control laws have been used the whole time to arm the colonizers and disarm the colonized. It's silly to act like the US isn't in a unique bind on guns

      • MF_COOM [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The US isn't in a unique bind about guns their government is just captured by industry

              • MF_COOM [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Having a government captured by industry isn't unique, the fact that in the US the gun industry is one of them is a distinction without a difference, not some Gordian knot no one can figure out how to untie.

                Instead of championing movement to counter that power we have very cool leftists repeating gun industry opposition to basic levels of gun control.

                • MoneyIsTheDeepState [comrade/them,he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Also, it's not some fucking gordian knot. We know how to untie it, it's just that it involves replacing our entire government

                  In the meantime, more criminalization in the US is just more criminalization

                  • MF_COOM [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    No shit chappie I didn't say it isn't unique I said it isn't a unique bind. It's the same shit lots of places, the only question is are you on the side of :porky-happy: or not

        • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          I mean it's third most populous country and has more guns than people. I think that itself makes U.S. quite unique. China and India don't come anywhere close.

          • MoneyIsTheDeepState [comrade/them,he/him]
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            2 years ago

            It's a weird, really bad situation. The distribution of guns in the US is strange, with gun-hobbyists holding a lot of them, particularly assault weapons. We have "licensing" programs for "illegal" weapons that allow you to own and use them if you're rich, meanwhile we sentence weed dealers to mandatory minimums for just possessing an otherwise legal handgun when they fall victim to a sting operation

            The US is ontologically evil is what I'm saying