The takes start with the premise "i support ukraine" and this one overriding thought drives them to make justifications for literally anything and everything.
They will justify genocide to remain supporters of ukraine. That is how far gone they are.
I think the core problem is nationalism. American nationalism has been transposed into Ukrainian nationalism. The people are irrelevant, the state religion is what matters.
American liberals were never this nationalistic. Ever.
I think Trump and his triumphant patriotism made them burn with envy. The chuds were having so much fun! It looked like a laugh riot. So they grabbed the next military adventure by the US government and made it theirs. Now they get to wave the flag and cheer while the chuds are angry and saying "No War!"
So much of liberalism can be defined by "find out what the right is doing and oppose it." I can see why it's popular. You don't have to lift a finger and you get to have a morally correct position on everything.
Obviously the previous anti-nationalism that they had was not real. How do we make nationalism uncool? It should be embarrassing but I see liberals saying deeply nationalistic things all the time without a hint of self awareness about it.
It's all fun & games until one runs into Palestinian nationalism, Bolivian nationalism, Venezuelan nationalism, South African nationalism...etc, etc, etc.
I do not believe that opposing bourgeoise-nationalism does anything to harm proletarian-nationalism. They are easily distinguished, and when people don't intuitively see that they're different things they are easily explained. Opposing nationalism in the imperial core will always be about bourgeoise-nationalism because there is no proletarian-nationalism within it.
The takes start with the premise "i support ukraine" and this one overriding thought drives them to make justifications for literally anything and everything.
They will justify genocide to remain supporters of ukraine. That is how far gone they are.
I think the core problem is nationalism. American nationalism has been transposed into Ukrainian nationalism. The people are irrelevant, the state religion is what matters.
American liberals were never this nationalistic. Ever.
I think Trump and his triumphant patriotism made them burn with envy. The chuds were having so much fun! It looked like a laugh riot. So they grabbed the next military adventure by the US government and made it theirs. Now they get to wave the flag and cheer while the chuds are angry and saying "No War!"
So much of liberalism can be defined by "find out what the right is doing and oppose it." I can see why it's popular. You don't have to lift a finger and you get to have a morally correct position on everything.
How do we fix that?
Obviously the previous anti-nationalism that they had was not real. How do we make nationalism uncool? It should be embarrassing but I see liberals saying deeply nationalistic things all the time without a hint of self awareness about it.
It's all fun & games until one runs into Palestinian nationalism, Bolivian nationalism, Venezuelan nationalism, South African nationalism...etc, etc, etc.
I do not believe that opposing bourgeoise-nationalism does anything to harm proletarian-nationalism. They are easily distinguished, and when people don't intuitively see that they're different things they are easily explained. Opposing nationalism in the imperial core will always be about bourgeoise-nationalism because there is no proletarian-nationalism within it.