I’m not too bothered by the IRC, it is a bit annoying not being able to get messages/responses while away (unless you rig up something to stay connected), I haven’t tried the mailing lists yet (other than the ones used as part of the Guix patching process (which Guix does provide a nice UI for with issues.guix.gnu.org), but it was a real pain connecting git:send-email as a first time user for the send-email part. There is supposedly some new tool called Mumi, but I haven’t tried it yet.).
I don’t see what you mean about the IRC being a walled garden? It did take a bit more work to connect than registering for Reddit, but I’d say it is comparable to the effort of joining Lemmy (but without the nice persistence of Lemmy). Another reason they might have for not wanting to add more communication channels is maintainer fatigue, every communication channel they officially add has to be watched by someone; and if all their maintainers are comfortable with something else, they will have to take time out of their day (with them already likely being volunteers) to monitor the new channel.
I feel like IRC is yet another obstacle to newcomers, in addition to email based git flow, debbugs, guile stack traces and zero editor (or very early WIP) integration except for Emacs. This is literally vendor lock-in. I've been contributing for years and now i almost have no trouble, but it was painful and I don't think it is fair to expect everyone to go through all this while with Nix you just need to open a PR.
What is the point of building a completely free system, that does not try to extract value from users, and actually tries to emancipate them by offering a trusted computing ecosystem, if no one gets to enjoy it because you made it so inaccessible that people are not able to use it? I'm exaggerating but I think you get the point. Now with efforts like the survey it looks like a fresh breath of air just entered the project, and the situation with contributions is a little better than a couple of years ago. I really hope we can pull an effort to make the bar for using and contributing Guix a little lower than it currently is, I am convinced that if we make some effort more people could liberate their computing environment with Guix
I’m not too bothered by the IRC, it is a bit annoying not being able to get messages/responses while away (unless you rig up something to stay connected), I haven’t tried the mailing lists yet (other than the ones used as part of the Guix patching process (which Guix does provide a nice UI for with issues.guix.gnu.org), but it was a real pain connecting git:send-email as a first time user for the send-email part. There is supposedly some new tool called Mumi, but I haven’t tried it yet.).
I don’t see what you mean about the IRC being a walled garden? It did take a bit more work to connect than registering for Reddit, but I’d say it is comparable to the effort of joining Lemmy (but without the nice persistence of Lemmy). Another reason they might have for not wanting to add more communication channels is maintainer fatigue, every communication channel they officially add has to be watched by someone; and if all their maintainers are comfortable with something else, they will have to take time out of their day (with them already likely being volunteers) to monitor the new channel.
I feel like IRC is yet another obstacle to newcomers, in addition to email based git flow, debbugs, guile stack traces and zero editor (or very early WIP) integration except for Emacs. This is literally vendor lock-in. I've been contributing for years and now i almost have no trouble, but it was painful and I don't think it is fair to expect everyone to go through all this while with Nix you just need to open a PR.
What is the point of building a completely free system, that does not try to extract value from users, and actually tries to emancipate them by offering a trusted computing ecosystem, if no one gets to enjoy it because you made it so inaccessible that people are not able to use it? I'm exaggerating but I think you get the point. Now with efforts like the survey it looks like a fresh breath of air just entered the project, and the situation with contributions is a little better than a couple of years ago. I really hope we can pull an effort to make the bar for using and contributing Guix a little lower than it currently is, I am convinced that if we make some effort more people could liberate their computing environment with Guix