It seems really cool but I'm a bit wary of it due to the crypto stuff.

    • mox@lemmy.sdf.org
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      3 months ago

      From two days ago:

      https://lemmy.ml/comment/13108576

      A few SimpleX shortcomings beyond what you noted, in no particular order:

      • No multi-device support.
      • Adding contacts requires sharing somewhat large links (as either text or QR code) which can be inconvenient.
      • Messages are lost if not retrieved soon after they’re sent. (I think it’s 21 days by default. I’ve had vacations longer than that.)
      • No group calls.
      • Group messaging is full-mesh, meaning that as a group grows, the network traffic will balloon faster than it would with any other topology. This is generally bad for high-traffic groups, but it might be okay if they stay small or everyone always has great unmetered connectivity.
      • The claim to not have user IDs is misleading at best, and outright false in group chats.
      • The desktop app uses Java, which will be unappealing to more than a few people. (To be fair, several other messengers use Electron, which is also unappealing to more than a few.)

      It does have some neat design ideas. I don’t consider it ready for general use, but I look forward to seeing how it develops.

        • mox@lemmy.sdf.org
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          3 months ago

          That does seem like a decent workaround for the multi-device problem, if you only communicate in small groups and each member only has a couple of devices. Directly addressing each other could get unwieldy fast as a group (or the number of devices) grows, but I'm guessing you're not in that situation. Nice work.

    • 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      hexagon
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      3 months ago

      Yea seems better, I installed it. Is there a way to allow certain SimpleX contacts to bypass DND? I was able to do it with Signal but it seems not possible with SimpleX

      • shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
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        3 months ago

        Not that I'm aware of, no. But I don't have much reason to use that, so I haven't really looked for something like that either.

  • mox@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 months ago

    Things I didn't like about Session when I looked at it:

    • Small group size limit
    • Forward secrecy has been removed
    • Isolated, app-specific onion network seems destined to forever be inferior to something like Tor, at least where privacy is concerned
    • Immature codebase (time and dedication could solve this, of course)
  • retro@infosec.pub
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    edit-2
    3 months ago

    My experience is that I tried to use it years ago and it didn't work, so I continued using Signal. Straight up could not receive messages. That's probably fixed now but if I wanted to move away, I'd try SimpleX instead.

  • EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
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    3 months ago

    My issue is effective impossibility to selfhost. XMPP, Simplex, even Matrix are very possible to run on your own, while a Session node would be insanely, arbitrarily expensive (requires around $1000 now, IIRC used to be more). A hobbyist like me and you would not want to pour this much into something they provide out of the goodness of their heart.

    Seriously, if you have this much disposable money, you'd be better off running a few Tor nodes in various places).

  • aviation_hydrated@infosec.pub
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    3 months ago

    It's nice, reliable and super quick to on board people since no sign up required. Technology seems interesting and novel, and it's also transparent since it even shows the node path (in addition to being FOSS)

    Do I trust it? No, but I don't trust technology in general