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    • kristina [she/her]
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      The point of the nuclear argument is that even under the mismanagement of capitalism, it results in less deaths, less environmental damage, less exploitation, and more energy output. The only energy source that outdoes it in this regards to safety is wind power on land. Of course, not every country has a good way to harness wind, and hydro and solar are problematic in how they disrupt the environment as well. With the right nuclear technology being harnessed and researched, potentially any country anywhere on the globe could develop their own energy in the most ethical way.

      • Owl [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Unless something has changed in the last few years, wind is more deadly than nuclear power (per unit energy). Mostly maintenance accidents and fires.

        • kristina [she/her]
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          Wind in general is worse than nuclear, however wind on land (say the great plains) is safer than nuclear, though that resource is obviously limited.

          • Owl [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Do you have a source on this? I can't find anything.

            • kristina [she/her]
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              https://www.statista.com/statistics/494425/death-rate-worldwide-by-energy-source/

              https://ourworldindata.org/safest-sources-of-energy

              These obviously don't take into account the imperialism required for various things

              • Owl [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Neither of these separate wind out by onshore vs offshore? At least anywhere I see?

                • kristina [she/her]
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                  4 years ago

                  Yeah I'm having a hard time finding the study that I used for that information, I know it exists for sure though because I found it surprising

                  • Owl [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    Let me know if you find it! I'd find it surprising too.

                    • kristina [she/her]
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                      Regardless, here's materials required to produce the various kinds of energy: https://environmentalprogress.org/big-news/2017/6/21/are-we-headed-for-a-solar-waste-crisis

                      • Owl [he/him]
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                        4 years ago

                        That's a neat breakdown! It's kind of funny seeing hydro there: yup, it's just concrete.