not my anti-imperialist slayqueen :angery: lol

  • Maquis_IT [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Does anyone like Jimmy Dore? I think I've only agreed with a small percentage of the things I've heard him say.

    • kilternkafuffle [any]
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      4 years ago

      His heart is in the right place, his brain is not. He reflexively sides with anyone anti-establishment and anti-war - and he does the Joe Rogan disclaimer "but what do I know, I'm a fucking dumbass, why would anyone listen to me". So I wouldn't take him too seriously, wouldn't take my opinions from him, but I'd also give him a bit of a pass - some comrades aren't going to know politics in and out, smugly looking down on them is bourgeois/niche politics. Leftist mass politics is about embracing and critiquing people like him, not excluding them.

      The DNC and Clinton hate Tulsi, so Dore loves Tulsi. It's that simple. Don't go looking for depth in shallow waters.

      • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        "The DNC and Clinton hate Tulsi, so Dore loves Tulsi. It’s that simple. Don’t go looking for depth in shallow waters."

        This is a great simplification of his position, Dore put his faith in Tulsi's anti war message since she was a serving military officer and sitting member of congress believing it gave weight to her position (however weak it was in hindsight), and after she endorsed biden he also turned his critique on her:

        http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2020/april/02/jimmy-dore-challenges-rep-tulsi-gabbard-regarding-her-praising-the-virtue-of-us-military-service/

        In one of the live streams he had after her endorsement of biden, he admitted the he felt fooled by her campaign. Sadly he never uploaded that segment to the youtube channel as I considered it one of his greater moments. This experience, combined with his knowledge of the Bernie campaigns internal drama (a reality that the Chapo community has yet to reconcile themselves with), and Bernies lack of action in the face of COVID all led to his current hardline anti-electoralism stance, and focus on promoting direct action and providing tools to the working class currently being robbed and oppressed by the ruling class. He has also switched retorical focus to regularly describing members of the progressive caucus as cowards for staying silent and deferring to democratic leadership thereby selling out workers.

        Im not saying Dore is perfect or even that Jimmy will give you the deep theoretical basis leftist seem to crave so they can nerd out in endless discussion, but I find his segments valuable, and his moral compass true.

        • kilternkafuffle [any]
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          4 years ago

          Thanks for the info, I didn't know that. I agree that Jimmy's moral compass is good and he has some brighter days. But sometimes he's stubborn and doesn't seem to take in information when deciding an issue. And he's a bit black-and-white with a lot of politicians - he was too into Tulsi and too harsh on her genuine critics.

      • Maquis_IT [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Thank you for perspective. I wasn't dismissing him, just genuinely curious who his audience was and how many people here were fans. I recognize now that he is an ally.