https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/08/the-hard-reality-ukraines-last-gasp-offensive-has-failed/

  • Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    letting it collapse and then having a huge refugee crisis on their hands. Europe is certainly in no position to absorb these refugees meaning that it’s stuck between a rock and a hard place

    Will it affect USA and UK, as the main instigators of the whole shitshow? Ruining continental western Europe seems to be part of the plan. A refugee "crisis" will also help stir reactionary movements. For now they've been willing to tolerate Ukrainian refugees over Syrian or African ones (for obvious reasons), but I doubt it will last. There's already been enraged videos and posts online about "ungrateful, lazy" Ukrainian migrants in Poland and such. Which, again, helps the interests of the instigators.

    similar situation to Chechnya develop where people realized they got played by the west and are now quite resentful for having been used that way

    Chechnya has seen flares of violence long after the war was officially over. For example here. And after that, well. I don't know any Chechens personally, so I obviously cannot speak for the mood over there. In western Russia, however, where I live, there's still a lot of resentment towards Caucasus people. Videos of Kadyrov dancing while being showered with money (not exaggerating) don't help, and neither do stories in media about Caucasus (or suspected to be such) men starting fights in Moscow subway, or scalping a young man in Elektrostal (again, not exaggerating).

    What I'm saying is, don't underestimate the tensions. There's plenty of shit for stay-behind groups to exploit, and the chaos they'll create will only serve the interests of the bastards who started it all. While they, for now, remain insulated from consequences

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      UK is definitely having serious problems now, and they are still very reliant on the EU economy to stay afloat. So, they're definitely going to be affected whether they realize it or not. US will likely not see much of an impact in the short term, but Europe crashing economically will drag them down as well in the long run. We're basically seeing two geopolitical and economic blocs forming around BRICS and G7. Right now things aren't looking good for the G7 side.

      And I get your point that things with Chechnya aren't perfect, but the situation does seem to be improving steadily. It's certainly far better today than it was in the 90s. I'm not saying that there won't be difficulties after the war ends, but I don't think any of the problems are insurmountable. Ultimately people want peace, and they want to a safe environment to live and raise their kids in.

      Unfortunately, I agree that those who are responsible for all this are likely never going to be held accountable.