Much like a lot of Gen X, some of the older Millennials in my life (particularly the white working professionals) are parroting the age old mantra of "I don't care about passing my skills on to the younger generations or helping those in need, no one ever helped me in my life.". My response is always "That's not a good thing!" because I never know what to say. Debate is not my strength.

My working class grandparents were never like this. They lived through the great depression and two wars and never wanted anyone to suffer as much as they did. I miss them and their kindness dearly. It's only from boomers and younger that I've seen this attitude. Capitalism is crushing our instincts as a social species. If we can't stand on the shoulders of giants... well then we will stop advancing as a species. We will stagnate and go extinct because the challenges we face now need all of us. It goes against everything that is human to be this alienated and antagonistic to one another. Particularly frightening is the hatred and contempt modern society has towards children.

This is not going to end well.

I appreciate all the people here, whether you're 20 or 60, for not becoming the thing that hurt you. We need people with a soul more than ever.

  • Cammy [she/her]
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    It's really sad. It's like the material conditions making us unable to take care of children has alienated us from children in general.

    Like the people who can care for children now either have them unplanned or are wealthy enough to do so and have some of the worst political views.

    Then you throw in the way children are already treated like possessions and it gets that much harder to connect with younger generations.

    It doesn't make it right, and I want to support the people around me regardless of age, but times are desperate right now and capitalism incentivizes short- sighted selfishness and self preservation.

    It makes me really sad because I can see the material conditions for younger generations are so much worse than mine.

    I didn't have mass shooter drills or a high school graduation on zoom. I had reliable resources I could access online without as much fear of predation. I didn't witness depressingly clear public executions and climate disasters on my phone and then get told I needed to study more for a job that won't be there.

    They don't need the false hope peddled by liberal politicians. They need solidarity from those of us who were where they are right now. Like yeah, shit sucks, but I want them to get through this and hopefully continue to fight for the better world that we know is possible.

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      • Cammy [she/her]
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        I catch myself doing that too. At least I look at it from a media criticism lens, but I don't want to ruin someone's time with Pokémon, the Princess Peach game, or the new Zelda because of conversations I want to have about feminism or turning media into slop.

        But I do feel bad that younger generations are being fed slop.

        Small rant on Pokémon:

        spoiler

        I feel like the capital G Gamers want to have an M-rated edgy Pokémon, for example,where they can have a waifu or whatever, while I just want gamefreak to talk to 10 year olds like they're smart enough to handle topics like bullying in school if they're going to prominently feature that as part of the plot.

        It feels insulting to younger generations that such potential storytelling is missed because the reality is that such writing would offend the sensibilities of those G Gamers. They don't want to talk about animal liberation or systems of power or the myriad things that could be portrayed in a game like Pokémon. They just want their nostalgia slop without politics and that comes at the expense of children.

        I remember playing the early games and despite the lack of polish, but the stories got simpler with time with a few exceptions.

        But companies like gamefreak go where the money is and that's the status quo.

        I'm happy kids can enjoy what they can, and such conversations should be directed at adults and the companies themselves, but I definitely dislike this trend of taking joy from children to heal one's own childhood wounds.

        • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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          this

          Pokemon was never meant to be edgelord shit. It was always about having fun learning about creatures. It can be enjoyed by all ages without forgetting that it's also for kids.

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            Until Diamond and Pearl made everything kind of stupid the games were very much about environmentalism and had a lot of hints about animal liberation, too (somewhat ironically -- I try to keep in mind it is still a video game, after all). The arcs of Mewtwo, Rocket, and Cinnabar are genuinely compelling existential narratives that are only ever hinted at and briefly expanded in the first movie. You do not see stuff like this at all with this franchise, anymore.

            For Ruby and Sapphire specifically, this is one of my absolute favorite videos analyzing the historical context around the games' development and what they try to say with their themes. 100% worth a watch if you enjoy the old Pokemon games like me.

            https://youtu.be/Ze8uhmeFt7A

            • newmou [he/him]
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              2 months ago

              I played Black on an emulator for the first time recently and holy shit it must have been made by the Japanese State Department or something lmao a tour de force of propaganda

              • Ivysaur [she/her]
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                2 months ago

                It has been a long time since I played it, and I don't think I finished it. What was propaganda to you? I don't think I ever got that impression, but I may just not remember it.

                • newmou [he/him]
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                  2 months ago

                  The bad guys want to liberate Pokémon from being captive battle slaves, and you and the coalition of good guys are trying to stop it. And of course they make the bad guys out to be doing it because they actually just want power and to steal everyone’s Pokémon for themselves lol. Some of the lines in there are golden, things like “We’re going to liberate all Pokémon! And I’m gonna start by stealing yours because I want to!!”

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                    Ohh, yeah I do remember that now. Team plasma was it? Really fucking sucked I agree. ever since galactic I feel this way about enemy Pokémon groups…they’re either not grounded at all in any sort of relatable way (galactic, plasma, flare), they're just a worse rocket (aether), or they’re not even a syndicate at all and just hooligans (skull, yell, star). At least that last group can be interesting, but they’re so mired in the ungrounded nonsense now that I just don’t care.

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          • HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org
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            That's some beautiful language there- "particularly fashionable scars."

            I do wonder about the nature of some toxic fandoms. Are they not aware that their behaviour harms the overall fandom? Or are they so committed to self-satisfaction that they don't care? Or do they see themselves as an isolated outcrop, that their actions shouldn't affect the whole community?

            WRT Pokemon, how much of the franchise's Flanderization was actual response to objections of touchy content, and how much is due to risk-averse people being handed a huge money printer, fueled by parents who are easily mobilized against "problematic" content. It's interesting that they never tried to manufacture a Palworld-style product themselves-- a deliberately independent universe where they don't need to worry about keeping it rated "E for Everyone", but using their proven engines and mechanics.

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      • keepcarrot [she/her]
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        2 months ago

        Wild that a space with a high number of child haters also has a high number of groomers.

        Also weird that it is full of people who have no sense of duty to their communities or anything outside of their immediate gratification.

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          • keepcarrot [she/her]
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            including Nonce Island "experts" claiming that orphans were better off being taken in by said predators)

            o_O