Intentionally loud exhausts are obnoxious and selfish. As much as I dislike it, however, I'd far rather deal with the noise than having yet more surveillance. We're already the #3 most surveilled country in the world, only the USA and China is worse.
Harley Davidson bikes are just noise pollution. Unlike cars they are build like this out of the factory.
No they aren't. Harleys are quiet with the factory exhaust, it's just that they are commonly modified with aftermarket (louder) exhausts.
Electrics cars will make it a non issue but then we will be stuck with the surveillance. Our country is scary. No one cares.
Having said that if you are intentionally being noisy for noisy sake there should be harder punishments. Even lose your license for a bit, it's not a got given right to drive. You got to earn it.
All drivers should be considerate of others
I live in a city center, and frequently have loud cars drive past. Some are substantially worse than others. The loudest of them are so loud that when they go past I can't hear my TV for 30 seconds or so, and that's with my windows all closed and listening via headphones.
Something really does need to be done to enforce the noise laws that are often being ignored.
I'm not really in favor of surveillance but it should be legal and socially acceptable to throw rocks at cars that have been straight piped. Fuck em. If you make your car louder on purpose you should be punished
I never even considered that was an option. I figured loud jackasses was just something we'd have to live with.
All motorists are loud. Cities aren't loud, cars are loud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8
I'll take the loud cars if we can get some real fucking regulations on headlight brightness so I don't get blinded every time I drive at night.
There is already the regulation in the Highway Code:
114: "You MUST NOT use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users"
The "MUST NOT" indicates that this is a legal requirement and so it is a criminal offense to disobey it. Now if we could get the police to actually ENFORCE the legal requirements in the Highway Code, then maybe things might improve on the roads.
I mean if that's the case then they have to enforce it on the companies as well because in 2023 it's the default on many models on the road, not even with their brights or high beams on.
Just went down the legislation.gov rabbit hole, and it seems there are regulations on headlight height and angle that have been in place since 1989, but unfortunately no maximum power or brightness restrictions.
Which means that although a driver could be fined for using excessively bright headlights, the manufacturer of the car could not be fined for making the car like that in the first place.
Perhaps if things like these noise cameras gain in popularity it will encourage the lawmakers to look at other issues like this one.
(Apologies for USA centric comment)
I think if that was proposed in the USA, people's heads might actually explode. When 2 roundabouts were put in nearby, some people acted like the UN new world order was on its way. I grew up in Basingstoke so I love roundabouts. Thankfully people have come around to the idea.
I'd support it just so my dog can walk near a road without some pickup gunning its engine as it flies past us. Any kind of traffic speed reduction is treated with fury over here.
People with loud pipes don't realize they look like a nobend and sound like this: https://youtube.com/shorts/s0xqopmjbSo?feature=share
Some idiot is going to hang out near the camera with a boom box and play loud engine noises every time an electric vehicle drives by.
People would just remove/silence the mods for the MOT and replace them as soon as they pass.
The louder the engine, the smaller the dick. I wish the same would happen here in the US. Those fuckers have self-esteem issues.
I 100% support your sentiment, but please consider reframing away from body-shaming in the future.
When your expression of freedom gets in the way of my health, my gut reaction is that I need you to stop.
The government do a lot to protect you from yourself. You just don't realise the extent of it.
Highways have traffic cameras all over the place for traffic control and spotting accidents, but it's never bothered you before because you've never noticed.
Stuff being recorded isn't the problem you having this idea that anyone is even remotely interested in using it to surveil you is the problem. You're not interesting, no one's watching you, no one wants to watch you, and no one is implementing clever conspiracies in order to get cameras in place in order to watch you more.
Ah the classic naïveté of the "nothing to hide" argument.
Regardless of the presented reason, it is right that people question and are cautious about increased surveillance. Some people are willing to capitulate to more and more monitoring very easily. Privacy is important.
Yes but you're essentially complaining about the equivalent of speed cameras and claiming that they're going to be used for monitoring you. Which would only happen if you were driving past them very loudly so just don't do that.
If you get caught speeding you can hardly use the arguement of well the government shouldn't be monitoring me.
You're engaging in the classic slippery slope fallacy. Anything you don't like, all you have to do is claim that it's a step on the way to tyranny and suddenly it's acceptable to oppose it. The same arguement was used to oppose the introduction of seat belts.
That glorified speed cameras we're not talking about state surveillance here.
Anyway if you wanted to object to that you should have objected about 30 years ago and CCTV camera started to get put in everywhere
Just because it's already very bad, doesn't mean that you should make it just a little worse.
You know at my old house there was an ice cream van that made my life mildly more irritating as his chimes were on ear splittingly loud (guy must have drove with earplugs), and frankly I'd have loved it if somebody would have actually enforced the law (there is actually a law for ice cream van chimes) and an automated system like this would be one way!
The one near me plays something that used to be Popeye the Sailor Man, but now sounds like some Lovecraftian signal to wake an eldritch abomination from its slumber.
British people are insane. Why are you willingly asking for more government intervention in your daily lives for such a minor annoyance. Y'all do realize they will eventually be caught using this to spy on people.
Fuck it. I'm tired of being woken up by the sound of machine guns and grenades.
Can't they just deal with it at the MOT?
Plus I'm pretty sure it would be pointless recording the noisy bollock whizzing up and down my road on his motorbike, because apparently number plates are optional when there's fuck all police about.
I'm pretty sure that a lot of people do custom jobs, either at a shop or a hobbyist place. The nerds who are into custom exhausts can probably just switch before and after their inspection. Although granted I wish the MOT dealt with loud cars better. I heard they're going down this route, but haven't see any effect from it yet.
Loud motorcycles, modded trucks, and the occasional rice rocket.
