• Ellia Plissken@lemm.ee
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    22 days ago

    correct me if I'm wrong, but the United States doesn't even have oil refineries that are capable of making gasoline out of American oil? like we need the type of oil that the middle East has, so we're constantly trading oil back and forth even though we have plenty of it

    I think I've heard this is true. something about politicians wanting to look environmentalist and therefore preventing the building of any more refineries

    • fox [comrade/them]
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      22 days ago

      No, there's a significant amount of oil infrastructure locally. They've even got a colonialist extension with Canada: crude oil crosses over to be refined and sold back to Canada

      • radio_free_asgarthr [he/him, comrade/them]
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        22 days ago

        No, it is true. It is not the quantity of oil infrastructure, but the grades and types they are. The US crude is mostly light sweet crude after the shift to oil shale. The refinery infrastructure was originally built for heavy crude with high sulfur content. Thus the US imports the type of oil our refineries were built to handle, and exports the portion of the oil that is domestically produced, but the wrong type.

    • radio_free_asgarthr [he/him, comrade/them]
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      22 days ago

      The lack of investment in the types of oil refineries to refine US oil domestically isn't as much for optics purposes. But that relative to the amount of investment required to build new refineries to compete with the current foreign ones isn't a good return on investment relative to the up front cost and the existing profits of the current arrangement.

      • Ellia Plissken@lemm.ee
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        22 days ago

        the government should at least subsidize a couple so in the event of an apocalypse we can make our own gasoline.

      • Ellia Plissken@lemm.ee
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        22 days ago

        yeah from what people are telling me, we have the capability of processing lower quality crude oil so it makes more sense to export our high quality stuff, then buy the cheap stuff since we can already refine it.

        • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          22 days ago

          yeah thats pretty much the TL;DR here. It's complicated since oil is complicated and there isn't really a "insert oil" oil to talk about, there are a lot of variations of it, and a lot of ways to refine it, and a lot of different resultant products from it as well.

          The fact that the modern petro industry even works is kind of insane.