Blue maga angry we wouldn't follow them into genocide hell for coconut lady
Very true; people should not be making decisions on silly inconsequential little things like a genocide.
Netanyahu is already doing whatever he wants and you're doing apologetics for genocide. The current Biden administration is complicit in genocide and no amount of crystal ball gazing is gonna change that. Israel is currently doing everything they ever dreamed of doing. All the libs claiming Trump will get Israel to nuke Gaza are absolutely absurd. They're no going to nuke land they want to steal and settle, are they?
I'm sick of this shit. The two Amerikkkan parties are identical on foreign policy
smug liberal asshole fantasizes about me getting put in the trans camps because I recognize that both Amerikkkan parties are complicit in genocide. I don't know where you've been, but Biden and Harris were shaking hands with Bibi just in July. The arms shipments haven't ceased, no sanctions on Israel have been proposed, nothing is being done besides token efforts that fail on purpose.
"wasn't mean enough to Israel I guess" Is it so much to ask that someone not complicit in genocide be the president? How about this, if the Democrats are so open and willing in their genocide of Palestinians, what hope does that hold for people like me? How can I trust any of you liberals? "Oh, we'll bomb Palestinian women and children, but don't worry you trans and gay folk, you're fine."
Yeah ok, except I remember the "first they came for the communists" poem and it's certainly correct about both of our stupid bloodthirsty parties. I'm old enough to have protested against the Iraq War and I've personally watched how current Democrats have simply become the Republicans. Harris fucking accepted an endorsement from Dick Cheney, one of the most evil bastards who ever lived. Slaughtered a million plus Iraqis. And yet here you are concocting a situation where only one side will put me in camps or whatever because I recognize the simple reality that the Demokkkrats and Republikkkans are both explicitly genocidal against my Palestinian comrades
why are you people like this, you people never learn anything. Fuck off. The Dead Kennedys were right about everything.
So you recognize the danger you're putting yourself in by insisting you'd rather have nothing than only a little? That's what I'm getting out of this frothing mess of a comment.
I recognize that neither electoral party has anything to offer me, especially if both of them are complicit in genocide. Both sides have nothing. Both are equally dangerous. I'm not going to trust any promises that they make. Did I put it in civil enough terms for you, liberal?
This "frothing mess of a comment"? LOL, it was clear, coherent, consistent, well written, and it took you to task on how slimey and ignorant not to mention hypocritical you are, so you call it a "frothing mess." I wonder who is really
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here.But no surprise the only thing you're "getting out of it" isn't something she even implied.
Someday we'll throw every fascist like you into a big pit
Love how you settler sons of dogs drop the masks as soon as you feel you've been shown insufficient loyalty. I cannot wait for you to live in the Amerika I was born into, you smug cracker fuck. I want to watch you bleed.
Sorry to disappoint but I’m only gonna benefit from official Republican policies, so… thanks? I guess? Was just trying to help you non-wealthy non-crackers.
Even if every single leftist voted for Kamala, she would still lose; there aren't enough leftists in this country to restore that blue wall.
She lost because of the genocide and alienating her base while trying to become a diet republican.
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it's a genocide not a conflict. You are engaging in genocide denialism. Imagine someone calling the Holocaust a "conflict in Germany"...
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Netanyahu has already had free reign under Biden. Every single "red line" of Bidens was crossed by Netanyahu and later normalized by the Biden administration.
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When someone points out the genocide you're doing, and your response is "go away, Russian.", that's how you know you're just fully a nazi.
Cope and seethe genocidal piece of shit
I hope you cry all the crocodilian tears you couldn't spare for the thousands of dead children
You should be made to eat literal pig shit until you choke on it
lack of focus on certain demographics
There was no "lack of focus" lmao. They focused very hard on telling every demographic that matters to go fuck themselves in different ways. Arabs were told genocide is good, Latinos were told immigration is bad, and black people were told that if they wanted to not be poor, they should buy crypto and start a business.
We need Genocide Joe to commit Genocide to win the election
Nobody should replace Skeletor Genocide Joe, he is the incumbent that is the bestest candidate
Actually Kamala needs to run without holding primaries. It is too late now!
Kamala must promise keep supporting Genocide, if she doesn't she will lose
Kamala needs Liz Cheney to win over voters.
Actually the economy is bad so it does not matter what Democrats would have done
Who cares about genocide and actual demonization of immigrants.
The real issue is that white men weren't the absolute center of attention for 5 minutes. Ignore the fact that she was replacing a white man, running against a white man, and her VP was a white man...white men are obviously the real victims here! /s
What you call "denying the humanity, feelings, and fears of white males" is a standard experience of every single other group of people (you're literally doing it to them in the comment I'm replying ) and it stems from capitalist alienation, not "wokeness" or whatever.
I mean... Do you? What things are you doing to address these issues?
Yes. The most basic thing I've done was demanding the genocidal party stops doing the genocide if they want my support which I've done since oct-8, their refusal to listen doesn't change my demands or how serious I was in those convictions.
Also, did you assume I'm a white male? I'm not.
Did I? You pushed the white male victimhood narrative and I expressed why thats wrong, that doesn't change based on your race/sex.
How's that been working for you?
The blue genocidal party lost just as I told them they would if they didn't listen and stop doing genocide. So I guess I've been vindicated in my demands they stop.
I believe you did. You referred to me "doing it to them (other people)". I'm other people.
Are you really going to debate bro me on whether I assumed you to be a white male or not?...going so far as to remove context to try and make specific phrasing seem pointed?
What you call "denying the humanity, feelings, and fears of white males" is a standard experience of every single other group of people (you're literally doing it to them in the comment I'm replying )
You placed "white males" as a standalone group in your comment.
I stated that white males are not seperate from other groupings of people and by separating them into their own group and dismissing the struggles of other groups you are "denying the humanity, feelings, and fears" of all those other groups.
You don't have to be a white male to do this... obviously...
Did I? I didn't, in any way, make a judgement on the value or ethical implications...
Oh, you just are a debate bro...hhhfff
I didn't, in any way, make a judgement on the value or ethical implications
You don't need to.
I merely suggested, sarcastically, that it was a big factor in losing the election.
So this is when you, sarcastically, pushed the white male victimhood narrative.
You seem to be under the impression that this dehumanization is warranted, though.
What? So you don't believe in the white male victimhood narrative and weren't pushing it...but my rebuttal of the white male victimhood narrative signals to you that I support white males being victims...this doesn't make any logical sense.
Do you think ranking people regarding their levels of assumed victimization due to ethnic, sexual or identity backgrounds is something desirable in general?
No. Hence why I opposed your attempt to "sarcastically" rank white males at the top of a victimization totem pole.
Edit: BTW...did you assume I'm not a white male?...
Do you think this will have an impact on the actual genocide, though? Do you feel like you've done enough? Can you fairly and honestly say this is something you care about if this is your only action regarding this problem?
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Yes. Trump's incompetence is much more likely to lead to failure.
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No. While you still draw breath and the genocide is ongoing, you can never say you've done enough.
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Where did I say this was my only action? I specifically called it my "most basic" action, indicating I view it as one of the easiest/least impactful.
Did I remove any relevant context?
Yes, and I provided the context directly under where I accused you of removing it. I was speaking of the "white male" group you singled out in relation to other groups. You made it seem as if I was singling you personally out in relation to other groups.
This is the last I'll say on it, since we both agree that the sex, gender and ethnicity of the other is irrelevant.
Any chance on giving that statement second thought? I think you'll find something interesting.
I've thought about it and have determined that white males do not face unique forms of discrimination due to them being white males, simply the same capitalist oppressions which used to be reserved for others. So to single them out as a unique group that is discriminated against is not based in reality.
"When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression "
I'm unfamiliar with the term. Maybe if you clarify I can tell you if I feel identified with the definition.
Someone who's desire for engaging in and "winning" internet debates is libidinal.
Erm... So by me suggesting their vote was lost, i implied they were victims?
No, suggesting that their vote was lost due to the democratic party "denying their humanity, feelings and fears" implies they are victims of having those things stripped away.
Under my perspective, everyone deserves to be listened to, have their humanity accepted and treated with respect (even in situations of conflict and mutual destruction). You, me, white males, bolivians, jews, palestines, fundies, tankies, billionaires, criminals, war criminals, nazis, hitler, genghis khan. Everyone.
So we have a core disagreement here (though I don't see the relevance).
Respect is freely given but can be lost. How do you respect Nazis? Baby Hitler did nothing wrong sure, adult Hitler is a different story. We didn't beat Hitler by hearing him out and defeating him in the marketplace of ideas. We pushed the Nazis in and he ate a bullet.
My original point was about the consequences of the lack of willingness to convey these basic forms of empathy to white males in the election (this doesn't imply i consider them victims. I don't.)
Another core disagreement.
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these things were conveyed to white males. Far more than any other group. I'm expected to vote democratic party despite a genocide of my brothers and sisters in faith...Dems literally adopted Trump's white nativist policies to try and appeal to white males and {1}you're justifying their lack of support while combatting mine...
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being stripped of your "humanity, feelings and fears" and having to face a total lack of empathy in the system, would be victimization. It's just not something they face.
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What humanity? What humanity do the sons of settlers have? What matter are the feelings they've used to rule over all and sundry for practically all of recorded western history in some form or another? What "white men" fear sickens me, because all that cohort has EVER seemed to fear was not being on top. Crackers fear that we would treat them as they have treated us; and honestly at this point, it'd be warranted if we did.
That is 'the quiet part you won't say out loud'. That is what the cohort you currently bear the water of fears. That you want me to shed tears for that genuinely sickens me, you fuckin loser.
I believe that power grows out of the barrel of a gun, and that if John Brown had shot more colonizing slaver bastards, we definitely wouldn't be having this conversation right now.
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Honestly I don't believe that; but even that's true, you're still carrying their water; so you may as well be white.
We're not fucking friends; and I don't claim you as kinfolk. "Humanity of the settler", get the actual fuck out.
war thing everyone gets so invested in yet no one does anything about beyond participating in thinly veiled socialization rituals and including symbols of support into their wardrobes and memes.
It's still projection. You are incapable of caring about the genocide of millions, and so you assume that everyone else is too.
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