• Saif [he/him]
    arrow-down
    11
    ·
    edit-2
    4 years ago

    muslims are a race, and its racist to draw muhammad now, read the room my friend. this is the way of things. stop trying to conflate everything under the western conception of "religion" as if you can approach them all in the exact same way, you imperialist fuck. come to each one humbly with your head bowed, and attempt to learn something new about a different culture, for once in your fucking life.

    • Amorphous [any]
      arrow-down
      16
      ·
      4 years ago

      muslims are a race, and its racist to draw muhammad now

      what the fuck is wrong with you lmao this is absurd

      • Saif [he/him]
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        4 years ago

        race is a social construct and not a biological one, and if you spend 5 seconds looking at the Western discourse you will see that Muslims have undergone racialization. how have you missed this?

        • Amorphous [any]
          arrow-down
          14
          ·
          4 years ago

          ok, if they're a race then they don't have religious rules i need to respect because races are something you are born into and not sets of beliefs that you follow and impose on others

          • Saif [he/him]
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            4 years ago

            sure, if that's the tack you want to go on. now that we've established islam has been racialized, and that it's extremely obvious that plastering drawings of Muhammad on the walls has been weaponized as form of racial oppression (again take 5 seconds to look at the discourse), can we agree it's fucking racist to do it? and there's precedence of course - culture is a fickle thing and anything can be turned into a slur with enough effort by racists, and we're not even talking about a word, we're talking about elaborately drawing something lmao.

            • Amorphous [any]
              arrow-down
              12
              ·
              4 years ago

              sure, if that’s the tack you want to go on. now that we’ve established islam has been racialized, and that it’s extremely obvious that plastering drawings of Muhammad on the walls has been weaponized as form of racial oppression

              why is it racial oppression to draw pictures of some guy? it's against muslims religious beliefs, but we're not talking about a religion here, we're talking about a race.

              • Saif [he/him]
                arrow-down
                5
                ·
                4 years ago

                because racists have turned it into racial oppression? i just said culture is a fickle thing and this is how racial slurs and racial oppression develops, just look at blackface.

                • GravenImage [none/use name]
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  4 years ago

                  this is how racial slurs and racial oppression develops, just look at blackface.

                  Liberals literally have history backwards. It was the historic material conditions of black exploitation which generated the superstructure of anti-black culture in order to rationalize the existing state of affairs.

                • Amorphous [any]
                  arrow-down
                  14
                  ·
                  4 years ago

                  blackface is mockery of a specific race's features. drawing muhammad is mockery of a specific religion's rules. how is there any similarity?

                  • Saif [he/him]
                    arrow-down
                    8
                    ·
                    4 years ago

                    i don't know how many times i have to keep saying this - racial oppression develops culturally, meaning there could be no logic to it but it becomes racist anyway due to the usage by racists for that purpose. for example, a lot of slurs have literally no etymological meaning, such as the "G" word used against Asians. you are trying to make racism seem logical, when it isn't and never has been.

      • disco [any]
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        4 years ago

        That comment is so absurdly idiotic that I assumed he was trolling at first. But no, somehow he actually believes it.