• PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Why Lord of the Flies? That book just promotes the chud idea that without "law and order" human beings would just be savages that would gleefully kill each other.

    • keki_ya [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      It’s funny because they found an actual island of stranded kids a while ago, and they all worked together and practiced communism instead of smashing each other with rocks or whatever

      https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/09/the-real-lord-of-the-flies-what-happened-when-six-boys-were-shipwrecked-for-15-months

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      The children do, initially, attempt to establish law and order. But this organizational structure breaks down as soon as individuals realize there is no consequence for misbehavior save what their fellows impart.

      The story establishes a compelling historical dialect, with the kids initially attempting to replicate the world they remembered, but ultimately adapting to their material conditions over time. While you can certainly read it from a Hobbesian angle, you can also read it as an understanding of how the world functions even with "law and order". The strong prey upon the weak, gangs prey upon the individual, and all the high minded rhetoric in the world falls flat when you're on outside of the mob looking in.