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- technology@midwest.social
Google is now rolling out a system where Chrome directly tracks your activity and shares its summary with advertisers.
Also Firefox is faster as of like two months ago.
It takes five minutes to switch browsers, and the difference is so little that you'll often forget you did it.
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Using chromium, ungoogled chromium, brave (reactionary baggage), vivaldi, opera, etc is not good enough. We must switch to Firefox specifically.
All the Chrome forks I mentioned above use the same chrome rendering engine, called blink. When you use blink you're helping google take over the web. Firefox is already on the shitlist of every major website because they refuse to prevent the user from installing things like adblockers and privacy extensions like Chrome does with manifest v3 and soon with their new Web Environment Integrity system. They cannot wait to throw up a "your browser is no longer supported :(" page for all Firefox users, and when that happens it will be over for our fox friend.
They cannot wait to throw up a "your browser is no longer supported :(" page for all Firefox users, and when that happens it will be over for our fox friend.
Whenever you see a site that does this, or a site that works on Chrome but not Firefox, report it at webcompat.com. Doing that will create an issue in github.com/webcompat/web-bugs.
For sites that are intentionally blocking Firefox users, Mozilla adds interventions or user agent overrides for those specific pages or scripts (go to
about:compatin Firefox to see a list of them) to make it work with Firefox, even on sites trying to block Firefox.Honestly, manifest v3 can't come soon enough, the enshitification of chrome would mean more people moving to Firefox, so, I think it would be a good thing to force all chrome users to look at ads, simply to give them a 'real' (since privacy isn't annoying or something you feel with every page you click) reason to switch
The best time to stop using chrome was when they announced manifest v3, the second best time is now.
Not sure if this Chrome thing also applies to mobile, but this is as good time as any to remind people that you can now install uBlock Origin (and many other useful extensions) on the android firefox app.
The FF Android app is great, it has more UI customization, and adblock extensions.
Problem is webview , until there is an option from Firefox. You can either use the chrome one. Or use the chrome one. Whatever browser you use. So adding Firefox mobile only give you issues from Firefox on top of issues with chrome.
Geckoview is not a webview. https://github.com/mozilla/geckoview/issues/167#issuecomment-902022285
it's always been time to stop using chrome.
ungoogled chromium isnt good enough either. if you want to get away from topics you need to be using firefox or safari based browsers.
If a simply migrate tool existed that could preserve everyone's bookmarks, saved passwords, saved banking details, settings, etc and transfer them to firefox or other browsers it would be significantly easier to get people to move.
The biggest blockade I am seeing in getting people to move is not their love of google, it is the stickyness that having all of their shit built up in the browser causes. A simple and easy to migrate method would get people off it.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/switching-chrome-firefox
It's not as bad as you would think.
Most of this can be easily imported from Chrome to Firefox. Mozilla has a guide on it and it's pretty easy.
Settings will have to be redone, but I find that usually is pretty quick
a few hours of a single day
Yeah there's the problem.
I'm not talking about just me. I'm talking about getting mass migration to occur. The only people you're going to get to go through anything that takes more than 10-20mins at most are people that REALLLLLLLLLLLLLY care a lot.
I try new browsers all the time and it's like 5 minutes to switch back and forth between all of the chromium skins and Firefox, and that includes my addon settings, if you don't have addons it's literally one button that pops up when you first launch it. People don't switch because what they have "works" and they don't really care.
Just run both at once for a while and transfer logins over as needed.
OKAY OKAY
it's done. the only thing missing is Chrome's reading list, but that's minor.
Chrome reading list is just a knock off of pocket which Mozilla owns and is integrated into Firefox.
I've been in the process of switching to Firefox, and I've been half assing it, time to really do it
i just got a new laptop and it came with firefox installed on it, but i couldn't really figure out its features. on chrome i like having different profiles with their own histories, bookmarks, appearances, accounts/passwords, etc.. I couldn't work that out in firefox.
I've seen lots of people say it's an easy switch, but my ass could not do it
All you need should just be in
about:profiles, but it's definitely not as intuitive as on Chrome unfortunately yeahOk sweet, I’ll give it another go tonight with that tip. Tyvm
Would containers work for you? They don't separate bookmarks, but everything else would work like a profile. It says you need an addon but I'm pretty sure you don't anymore because I don't have it.
Anyone have a good guide to migrate data to Firefox. Things like auto fill bookmarks ect
I am a vim gremlin. I use qutebrowser, which is ultimately chromium-based, because I cannot find any reasonable way to do vim bindings for Firefox. Tridactyl, the most featureful and mature vim binding extension for Firefox, shits out if Firefox hasn't loaded a webpage.
Is there any Firefox fork that is keyboard driven like qutebrowser? I don't see how it could be accomplished without a fork or patchset, as the WebExtension API simply has too many restrictions for a proper input method.
Accessibility for people who have a hard time regularly switching between their keyboard and mouse is not a spacebar heating like reason.
If it were, there would be a functional Firefox alternative that I'm unaware of. You don't seem to know of one either. The moment such a fork exists I'll switch, but my wrists are too fucked up to use a mouse constantly.
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Anyway, apparently qutebrowser can optionally use webkit instead of the chromium based qtwebengine so do that I guess.
Webkit implementation is unmaintained and insecure, developer recommends against it. The comic is about users or developers relying on buggy or otherwise bad behavior for bad reasons - ie, extension developers mad about Firefox switching to a far more secure framework for extensions when their own extension is totally possible to implement without being able to monitor all web activity without even notifying the user, because they got used to doing it a bad way that is no longer possible. That's not really comparable to Firefox just lacking an accessibility option.
Trust me, I miss using proper extensions and not just greasemonkey scripts, I've wanted such a fork for years, but the only other reasonable alternative is Vieb which is fucking Electron based.
