• phillaholic@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I'm not going to pretend that not having borders is a solution to the problem, but I'm not going to pull the ladder up from the people looking for a better life, because that's exactly what my ancestors did, and the first batch of Europeans weren't exactly welcomed either.

        • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Haoles got to go, and natives have every right to do whatever they need to shove them out. I don't care if they raided you, pillaged the food, or scalped your soldiers. The Settlers were genocidal colonizers that killed every living thing in order to plunder the resources of a place they don't belong.

          • phillaholic@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            Sure, but I’m saying it’s wrong for the ancestors of those settlers to not want other foreigners to come to the US. Native Americans are the only ones with the right to make that argument imo.

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      the first batch of Europeans weren't exactly welcomed either

      Yeah, no shit? Genocidal colonialists weren't welcomed?

      • phillaholic@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        When you put it that way, oh look it's projection again. We can't let these foreigners in because they'll just murder us all.... because that's exactly what our ancestors did when they came here.

        • grazing7264 [they/them, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          It really is projection, there's a saying that racists are afraid of being treated the same way that racists treat their victims

    • lugal@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      the first batch of Europeans weren't exactly welcomed either.

      Is that so? Don't you Americans even have a holiday celebrating that the natives gave you food and stuff?

      • phillaholic@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        Americans have a holiday called Labor Day where service workers still have to work. I wouldn't read much into it.

        • lugal@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          What I meant is that it's an important historical event that the first settlers were welcomed. Not that this says anything about respect towards modern day first nations.

          • phillaholic@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            Much of what is taught about that historical event didn’t really happen, or was conflated together. No real evidence to suggest it’s proof of the settlers being welcomed any more than tolerance of a technologically superior group of people.