I am personally for radical direct democracy, nothing less, nothing more, because I view the political as trumping the economic, feel free to purge me once the revolution is there but I am interested if there are other “alternative” takes

    • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I do not live in the US which I guess where all the takes on it being not materially grounded comes from, as stated before here it is both part of social movements and as a bargaining chip to state abdication, you’re maybe not condescending but very much US centric

    • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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      4 years ago
      1. education and mandatory weekly session on the company dime
      2. you play them until they face an overwhelming tide, if they fuck around, you take it
      3. points above, plus will be drowned by the masses, if the system is no longer supported by the majority so be it
      4. there is no further protection than education, ethically i cannot force the majority but it wouldn’t happen in practice it might seem a bit alien but it is adapted to my country which is not the US where the constitution would allow it and it is gaining traction both institutionally and on the streets, it would require further adaptations in the US and would probably best started in a single state
        • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          the difficulty I guess is that I separate my personal beliefs for what would be an optimal system and my ethical belief laid out here that direct democracy should be the system going forward, the education system would probably best be agreed via both full transparency so it can be contested by referendum and via agreement with the teacher sector/unions. I didn’t mention it but media institutions would be heavily regulated with, ideally, full state or ngo ownership, and I think that having a direct mandatory impact to your own life would lead to more involvement not less. This is tailored as I see could work in my country and is also dependent on what people vote and do not, I do believe that Communards were almost radical enough in terms of political system, I do have, however, but not the point here, similarly radical views on the economy.

            • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              I do need to check more soviet theory, any advice on relevant work? I guess one crucial difference with a radlib project, even in isolation, is that the aim is to create a collective whereby the collective improves the state which improves the collective, and have consensus building, which are probably necessary anyways at least in the later stages of a radical direct democracy like I am describing