• zephyreks@lemmy.mlM
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    1 year ago

    It's a geopolitical statement. The US always needs an enemy to justify their egregiously high military budget, but, well, the USSR collapsed and the War on Terror is basically over.

    Now, the US drops military bases in Southeast Asia like they're candy and acts like that's totally not a provocative measure (unlike, say, putting a Soviet military base in Cuba).

    Even today, India is slowly shifting away from being America's media darling because of their policy of self-interest... soon, they'll be lumped in with China as being one of those "bad" countries that are "America's enemy."

    • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      Look at the downvotes here too. Lemmy has a serious orientalism problem. Anglos just cannot accept even the possibility that another country is not as evil as theirs is. For them, its psychologically satisfying for the victims of hundreds of years of colonialism to be morally equal to the colonialists. Outright racism, pure and simple.

  • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Seeing just how quickly and completely the anti-China hysteria took hold has definitely been a stark demonstration of just how effective our centralized western media is at shaping popular opinion.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      Public opinion manipulation becomes very evident when it's visualized. You can see the opinions quickly invert as the media narrative changed from positive to negative here

      Show

      https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023/07/27/views-of-china/

      The real tragedy is that most people don't realize just how much their views are being manipulated and how easy it is to do that. People think themselves as being rational and informed, and that they couldn't possibly fall for cheap propaganda tactics. Yet, as the chart above clearly shows their views can be shifted from their current position to a completely opposite one in a very short time span.

      • zephyreks@programming.dev
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        1 year ago

        Same thing is happening to India before our eyes.

        Thing is, the Western view that media is free inherently makes people more susceptible to propaganda. To be more precise, Western media has achieved a few things: (1) The illusion of media freedom makes people less likely to question the media they consume. (2) The profit-driven motive of media companies makes it more likely for facts to be "reinterpreted" to better fit the target reader's worldview. (3) The extent that government agencies are involved in media has been completely hidden from the public.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
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          1 year ago

          Completely agree, the advantage of western approach is that it creates an illusion of freedom and since people want to believe that their society is free, they tend to choose to believe it.

  • andscape@feddit.it
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    1 year ago

    This is just straight up true. Besides the belligerence and racism it pushes, it also makes it near impossible to have an actual, reasonable and critical comparative discussion of Chinese and Western societies. It closes any space that might exist for Chinese people to take part in any discussion of international affairs, since the attitude is so strongly against them. This pushes any open minded Chinese netizen back into the arms of their own government's propaganda, rather than inviting them into an open discussion of the good and bad sides of their and other societies.

    • zephyreks@programming.dev
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      1 year ago

      I mean, it's not like Chinese people are stupid. We know what's wrong with society in mainland China, but we also see all the benefits that it's brought. The fact that it isn't talked about doesn't mean that everyone's bought into government propaganda, it just means that people are on average happy enough to not bother with it.

      Flipping the firewall is easy. Going to Taiwan or Hong Kong is easy. Emigrating is easy.

      Just because someone isn't white doesn't mean that they're stupid ffs

      • andscape@feddit.it
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        11 months ago

        Oh sure, didn't mean to imply that Chinese people weren't smart enough to think for themselves. I was just making the point that neither western media nor Chinese media is helping at all to create space or goodwill for critical exchange and debate across boundaries and firewalls (which, to be fair, is not surprising).

        Glad to see there are actually Chinese netizens on Lemmy, by the way.

        • zephyreks@programming.dev
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          11 months ago

          I mean, that's the entire point, right? Media doesn't exist to show the truth, it exists to manufacture consent for some policy direction. If media was supposed to be factual, it wouldn't be funded by biased actors and it wouldn't have an incentive structure that rewards profits more than factual reporting.