Chinese observers said the BBC has turned into "a rumor mill" that deliberately throws mud at China, and the decision to suspend its broadcast sends a clear message that China doesn't accept fake news.

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  • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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    Honestly this is a really unironically cringe take to make on a leftist site. Bourgeois state owned mouth piece == proletarian state/anarchist organization owned media? In what world?

    Also the whole “if you don’t have a solution youre the same as a chud” is some serious blue check Twitter lib “how’s that revolution coming” “oh you don’t have a 10 step plan to revolution, well your ideas are invalid” thought terminating cliche shit.

    The answer is use the state owned media in the context of a proletarian government for their own ends, is that easier said that done, obviously. Doesn’t make it any less true that the bbc will forever be a bourgeois media for bourgeois interest until the Uk govt is dismantled.

    And saying that criticizing that fact is tantamount to thinking that literal communists are hating the concept of state owned media is such a laughable leap of logic I can’t even understand how you wind up there other than being reactionarily salty some people shit on your countries media corp lol

    • maverick [they/them]
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      Never thought I'd see someone scolding people for shitting on the BBC and getting upvoted here

      • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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        Lol again, what is this essentialising valid criticisms made from materialist/class perspectives into it’s completely worthless? If anyone’s all or nothing-ing this discussion it’s you. Imagine getting your panties in a twist cuz someone said something bad about the Uk and jumping to defend their bourgie institutions lmao :UK-cool:

        You can criticize somethings bad parts and recognize it does some good but ultimately can be improved

        Edit: also maybe not readily attainable in the settler colonial shitholes you and I are from but there have been and are plenty of state run media’s that don’t work to normalize imperialist apologia.

      • grisbajskulor [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        But criticisms of BBC have nothing to do with public media. I think we all agree here that public media is better than privatized media. Does that mean we have to "critically support" the BBC even if we disagree with them? No, because that means literally nothing. It has nothing to do with the "ideological void" we live in.

        • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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          exactly. also, like why does the fact that they have done a handful of decent things like hiring poc reporters absolve them of their hand in imperialist propaganda?

          I'm happy they're proud of the bbc, i'm happy they've had a good experience with it, no one wants to take that away. but let's be adults and recognize that our countries and their institutions have some blood on their hands that we should hold them accountable for.

          • grisbajskulor [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Yeah 100%. Honestly I like the BBC, it has decent reporting sometimes, despite its propaganda and horrific official anti-trans stance. Obviously I'm comparing it to other msm here.