• hopefulmulberry [none/use name]
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    But why would they encourage them to transition when they don't even plan on transitioning in the first place if they hate trans people? Plus they did an episode on TERFs, they've done reading series on trans authors and interviewed trans celebrities. I don't know what else you want. Nick Mullen has done that exact same joke and no one insists on talking about how he's a transphobe whenever he's brought up.

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      You might be surprised to hear I think Nick Mullen belongs in the garbage right next to Anna and Michael.

        • gayhobbes [he/him]
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          Bro, did you come from stupidpol or something? You're talking about coomers on one thread, doing apologia for Anna Khachiyan and Nick Mullen on this one. What is your deal?

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            Well yeah. I also listen to Red Scare semiregularly, don't listen to Cumtown or care about Nick Mullen one way or the other and don't like sexist guys who care more about their dicks than women. Is that really so bad?

            Also, I just realized you're the same guy who told me not to say coomer the other day. Don't worry, I'm not stalking you or anything hahaha

            • gayhobbes [he/him]
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              Okay well that makes sense. Stupidpol is really fucked, politically, they're basically class reductionists and honestly can barely mask their bigotry. The bigotry du jour tends to be related to sex and sexuality.

              You don't even have to go back that far to see Anna tweeting fucked up shit about "only two genders" or other shit like that and it's not deadpan, like she legit believes it. She's taken the shitty path of thinking that people can do what they want, she's fine with that, but she still holds that trans people are still fucked in the head. It's very condescending and certainly not approaching someone as an equal.

              I didn't really tell you not to say coomer, I tried to tell you what the insanely white supremacist context of it was.

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                See, the issue with Stupidpol is that I think American left culture is really radlibby and they really need something like class reductionism. Like, in my country the left has always been insanely class reductionist by American standards despite us being more racially "diverse", and I think a big reason for why it has so many more achievements than the American left despite us being so much poorer is because of that. They need to have people telling them in no uncertain terms that they have to focus on real issues, culture war be damned. I feel like their mass culture is starting to influence our local left and making it less effective, so if they don't change then the whole project is fucked.

                Wrt Anna, I think everyone I know believes that there are only two genders. I myself have never seen a nonbinary irl that I know of and I can't really say I understand people who believe that they're a third gender, so that alone's not gonna make me dislike her. If I one day met an enby and became friends with them then maybe, but I feel like I'm too disconnected from this to care one way or the other.

                Wrt the word coomer, I feel like the context in which I used it is necessarily not the same context as the one you told me about and I made that very clear in how I phrased it in the comment.

                • gayhobbes [he/him]
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                  I think a big reason for why it has so many more achievements than the American left despite us being so much poorer is because of that.

                  You would be mistaken. The US left has been handicapped due to identitarian atomization. Large parts of the left in the US often left out people of color, women, etc. for years. Popular movements like women's lib, gay rights, and Black Panthers adopted left rhetoric and built themselves despite that, and there's no detriment to it.

                  I think everyone I know believes that there are only two genders.

                  There are as many genders as there are that can be imagined, so that's a silly thing to assert.

                  I can’t really say I understand people who believe that they’re a third gender

                  That's obvious.

                  that alone’s not gonna make me dislike her.

                  I'm not asking you to dislike her.

                  Wrt the word coomer, I feel like the context in which I used it is necessarily not the same context as the one you told me about and I made that very clear in how I phrased it in the comment.

                  What you said was indistinguishable from what right wingers would say.

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                    OK, so how do you explain every other country where the left is more successful despite having "left minorities out of the process", the way you gringos define it, to a much greater degree? Why haven't people in Latin America also organized like that?

                    What you said was indistinguishable from what right wingers would say.

                    I attacked guys who would be offended by you not preemptively defending the idea of porn from the get-go. If that's what a right-winger would say, then I can't really say I disagree with them on that one.