Lets get real, lets get really really real. I was in 11th grade at Chardon Highschool in 2012. I was in the cafeteria when TJ Lane opened fired and killed three people. Can any of you justify why that sick fuck had any access to guns whatsoever? I thought you people were against private property? What the hell do you have to say to that then? Cops shouldn't have guns, citizens shouldn't have guns, workers shouldn't have guns, capitalists shouldn't have guns. NOBODY SHOULD HAVE ANY FUCKING GUNS! Just because Marx wrote one line about not disarming the workers you all parrot it like christians do the bible. If your reading this and you own a gun fuck you, throw it out, dispose of it properly. You have no right to take someone's life and are a coward for owning it. Seriously fuck you.

    • liarsallofyou [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      rights arent real. everyone has a right to life, everyone has a right to decent living conditions, everyone has rights innate in them that no government or law can say they do not have, but guns, no. That's just private property bullshit dressed up in revolutionary clothes. Tell me, if a revolutionary force did need guns why not just keep them in under collective supervision in a locker that soldiers cant take home? or do soldiers not serve the party and get to keep their murderous toys?

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I thought you people were against private property?

    Guns are personal property, different from private property.

    You have no right to take someone’s life and are a coward for owning it.

    What about self-defense, what about community defense? I'm sorry but the bourgeoisie and their reactionary friends aren't going to let you vote away their power and if, in the slim chance, you could, they'd send armed goons after you.

    I'm sorry you went through this and american gun culture is a toxic sludge but you're throwing the baby out with the bather water here. And this is coming from me who would love some FALGSC with no guns or conflict.

  • Mermadon [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Honestly I'm against weapons for the average person too. Most people aren't out there shooting up the Bourgeoisie, they're reactionaries just hoping for a moment they can "shoot some thug" for "walking in the neighborhood all suspicious".

    • liarsallofyou [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Most people aren’t out there shooting up the Bourgeoisie you know how psychotic that sounds? like im all for taking wealth away from billionaires and millionaires but murder? There's a line and you cross it when you take a life.

  • NotARobot [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I'm kind of conflicted on this issue. One one hand, any reasonable society ought to have at some restrictions and regulations, like background checks for sure. It looks like in your case, the guy got the gun from his Uncle. I don't know what could have helped in that situation gun-control wise outside of some kind of mass-disarmament and banning of selling guns.

    On the other hand, I don't think you can practically be in favor of any sort of revolutionary politics if you are in favor of the working class being disarmed. Maybe that's not a contradiction, maybe it is, idk.