https://twitter.com/china_takes/status/1372363271454429192?s=19

Edit: can I get a ruling from the c/vegan? Are vaccines from Hamster ovary cells ok or?

  • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Hi, :im-vegan:

    Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.

    as far as is possible and practicable

    AS FAR AS IS POSSIBLE AND PRACTICABLE

    • No_Values [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Thanks for this posts, I'm not vegan(veggie i'm getting there) but one of the most annoying chudly arguments is 'HoW cAn YoU bE VeGaN yOu StEP oN ThoUsAnDs Of bUgS EvEryDay'

      • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        WhAt AbOuT the pesticides and the mechanized harvesters you leaf munching sicko

  • p_sharikov [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Making vaccines from hamsters is not vegan, but spreading diseases and killing people is even more not vegan, so the vaccines it is. No ethical consumption under capitalism, unfortunately

  • Wrecker [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    It's not vegan, heck most/all of the pharma industry at this point isn't vegan, but especially when you look at how diseases are studied, antibodies are produced etc.

  • dave297 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Hamster ovary cells are used universally is a heck of a first sentence to read with no context

  • Lord_ofThe_FLIES [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    can I get a ruling from the c/vegan? Are vaccines from Hamster ovary cells ok or?

    They're not ok to make, but on an individual level they are ok to take

    • snackage [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      By that logic it's ok to consume milk but not ok to milk it.

        • snackage [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          If something is for survival it's absurd to make a distinction between production and consumption.

          • Lord_ofThe_FLIES [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            it's possible to make vaccines from something else than bits of animal corpses. If you can't influence the production of vaccines and you need the vaccine to survive, it's ok to take it

            • snackage [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              But they use animal bits for a reason. It's not like the bio chemists just have an ancient grudge against hamsters. The existence of alternatives isn't enough justification for making something immoral. If it were it's make every driver morally culpable.