These are my beliefs:
- Workers should control where they work at and receive proper equity from the value they create.
- Non-essential industries should not be controlled by the government, essential industries should be, for the most part.
- People should be able to have some say in who gets into government positions (at a minimum, like Vietnam or Cuba).
- Social democrats are not the same as fascists.
- Regular people (non-politicians, pundits and/or wealthy people) who happen to be liberals are likely well-intentioned and could be educated.
- Military action should not be taken unless you are being directly threatened by another country.
But are they worth imposing restrictions over? (They’ll never be equal standing until nation-states exist tbh). Like say usa exist, as social democracy. You (government you) have an issue: banana prices are rising, cause other country wants to increase its worker pay and seize your property. What’s your solution (population wants cheaper bananas and don’t give a shit about other people), and you have political opponent making noises about making bananas great again?
Workers having equity: is it like current equity? Cause intel worker then have significantly more leverage over economy than say joe the welder.
I would say that the people of the foreign country have the right to control their natural resources. Theoretically, bananas being sold could subsidized or even outright nationalized.
The workers are receiving the value they create.
But how do you determine that value? Is a logistics nerd optimizing routing of goods and cutting 1000 of hours of labor time in a week, should they receive thousand of hours worth or 40? What is the value of mothering a child, or caring for grandparents, or teaching a class?
I suppose there would be some sort of formula to determine what exactly a person does and how much they contribute to the overall success.
Yep, socdem or demsoc :Care-Comrade:
Of course, I do acknowledge that a lot of changes will be done through outside organizing and that the powers that be may not allow you to win an election.
Well, that’s why og social democrat. Early SDP was force of nature with outside organization in the early 20th century, with clubs and shit all over the place. I think my quarrel with them is (I also don’t agree they are same as fascist, at least not exactly), they got paralyzed with patriotism, electoralism/power (war bonds in ww1, rosa, then idiocy with fascist rise) and sort of “we fix shit for our workers, who cares what’s going on everywhere else”, which warped them in the current iteration.
Planned economy is for our friendos mls/cybersins, labor-hour vouchers for left-commi-ish position. Equity distribution I think would be largely unfair as well, as with existing means of production you have workers controlling extremely powerful “condensed labor” (like intel worker compared to mechanic or fast food worker), which will stratify society into “aristocracy” and their servants