The productive forces are walking in the open arms of fash thanks to China supporting them where i live. Whether you call it ultraism or whatever derogatory term you guys make up, these are the facts.
Don't take that closet neocon seriously. Anglo-"leftist" communities are always infiltrated by neocons like these who like to pretend to be "leftist" (remember when people here took "Chinese communists" chuangc seriously lmao?, or even the far-right ally piece of shit that is wilfred chan? these are just two examples, I can go on for a long time about how consistently this community has been conned by obvious disinformation warriors serving the american regime).
These "leftists" are always magically in line with the latest narrative of the far-right american regime, which is collapsing and is in desperate need of violence. America is a deeply incompetent regime/society, which, unlike China, can't compete so it resorts to wars, coups or sanctions. A doomed regime and society without a future, only propped up by the ephemeral conditions of the postwar.
Imagine allowing this trash in a "leftist" community while hate crimes spike. What are the mods doing?
Not that you're wrong in your assessment of america, but it's a little weird that you're so vehement about calling an 8 month user an infiltrator when your account is 39 minutes old.
You don't need an old account to read the disinformation that has been spread here for a long time. I can show you several archived links of blatant disinfo that is still up. It's always funny how protective of official regime propaganda anglo communities are. Once proven wrong, you try to attack those calling you out on it. But you can't rewrite the past or the present. Propaganda is still propaganda and you deserve to be called out on it.
Lol I don't even agree with the other user, I'm just pointing out your behavior comes off weird. If that's enough to make you feel attacked, maybe the shoe fits? I mean if I had to pick one of you who I though was a wrecker, Occam's razor is pointed at you. You doth protest too much.
Sure, absolutely. It's just weird when someone's first act on entering a conversation is to start accusing someone of being an infiltrator for having a bad take when ones own account is only minutes old, and getting bizarrely, paragraph-writingly defensive when someone else points that out.
Is it that weird to be mad and overly defensive in an environment of white supremacist violence and near constant propogada? I have a close chinese friend and he went from a jordan peterson bootstrap fiscal conservative whose dream was to work as a coder for a bank to reading literature on white supremacy in a matter of a few months. A lot of people are super scared that their livelihood will be destroyed or that they will be attacked or even killed.
There are so many weird people in this site. This is why I use new accounts. The harassment of anyone who dares to push slightly harder against american disinformation and extremism is incredible.
The hate crimes are not happening in a vacuum, and pretending anglo-"leftist" communities didn't catastrophically fail is just denial. Something needs to change.
Ccp has been a contentious issue for a long time. Long before this current regine of white supremacy and at a time when China was pushed as the capitalist miracle saving the world from poverty. I think it's difficult for people in ideological traditions that have been critical of marxism leninism. For decades to just do an about face. There are a lot of anarchists that oppose China in good faith.
Right now I think we just need to say listen. Now is not the time to be critical of China because it puts comrades and innocent people in danger.
Seems kinda suspect how much it irks you when people call out disinformation. At what point do you admit that it bothers you that were/are a victim of the propaganda I'm calling out?
I love it when people call out misinformation. I find it weird when brand new accounts argue with strawmen like a right winger does, and call much older accounts right wing infiltrators. These two concepts are separate, a fact you seem to be making a willful effort to ignore.
Several users here shilled for a literal paid disinformation warrior for the american regime in the past, or a fake "Chinese communist" site affiliated with american government institutions and disinformation warriors. I know what I'm talking about and I have it all archived.
You are just bored and ignorant, go find a hobby or something.
Why don't you just link them? You said you have everything archived, but you dont want to take 5 seconds to link the one thing that would shut me up immediately?
Why would that get you banned? It's not against the rules to link to posts, and the mods would thank you for bringing the disinformation to their attention.
Why do you crow so loudly about this all the supposed proof you have, only to clam up when asked to actually produce it? There's absolutely nothing stopping you from completely BTFOing me right now.
Not sure what you are trying to argue here, that speaking out against propaganda is wrong? what is a "wrecker"? speaking out against american regime propaganda in an anglo-"community" notorious for being bombarded with it? you realize how suspicious this is? at what point do you admit you just want to be force-fed disnfo to avoid admitting you were wrong (assuming you are honest)?
And please, read and inform yourself rather than base your views on the character of an user. Such reddit brain.
They aren't facts, you are just spreading disinformation in line with far-right regimes in deep decline which are scared of China's rise. Keep crying neocon loser.
The productive forces are walking in the open arms of fash thanks to China supporting them where i live. Whether you call it ultraism or whatever derogatory term you guys make up, these are the facts.
Trading with everyone is better than only trading with fascists.
Don't take that closet neocon seriously. Anglo-"leftist" communities are always infiltrated by neocons like these who like to pretend to be "leftist" (remember when people here took "Chinese communists" chuangc seriously lmao?, or even the far-right ally piece of shit that is wilfred chan? these are just two examples, I can go on for a long time about how consistently this community has been conned by obvious disinformation warriors serving the american regime).
These "leftists" are always magically in line with the latest narrative of the far-right american regime, which is collapsing and is in desperate need of violence. America is a deeply incompetent regime/society, which, unlike China, can't compete so it resorts to wars, coups or sanctions. A doomed regime and society without a future, only propped up by the ephemeral conditions of the postwar.
Imagine allowing this trash in a "leftist" community while hate crimes spike. What are the mods doing?
Not that you're wrong in your assessment of america, but it's a little weird that you're so vehement about calling an 8 month user an infiltrator when your account is 39 minutes old.
You don't need an old account to read the disinformation that has been spread here for a long time. I can show you several archived links of blatant disinfo that is still up. It's always funny how protective of official regime propaganda anglo communities are. Once proven wrong, you try to attack those calling you out on it. But you can't rewrite the past or the present. Propaganda is still propaganda and you deserve to be called out on it.
Lol I don't even agree with the other user, I'm just pointing out your behavior comes off weird. If that's enough to make you feel attacked, maybe the shoe fits? I mean if I had to pick one of you who I though was a wrecker, Occam's razor is pointed at you. You doth protest too much.
Also not anglo
People have a right to be mad and it is better to express it openly.
Sure, absolutely. It's just weird when someone's first act on entering a conversation is to start accusing someone of being an infiltrator for having a bad take when ones own account is only minutes old, and getting bizarrely, paragraph-writingly defensive when someone else points that out.
Is it that weird to be mad and overly defensive in an environment of white supremacist violence and near constant propogada? I have a close chinese friend and he went from a jordan peterson bootstrap fiscal conservative whose dream was to work as a coder for a bank to reading literature on white supremacy in a matter of a few months. A lot of people are super scared that their livelihood will be destroyed or that they will be attacked or even killed.
There are so many weird people in this site. This is why I use new accounts. The harassment of anyone who dares to push slightly harder against american disinformation and extremism is incredible.
The hate crimes are not happening in a vacuum, and pretending anglo-"leftist" communities didn't catastrophically fail is just denial. Something needs to change.
Ccp has been a contentious issue for a long time. Long before this current regine of white supremacy and at a time when China was pushed as the capitalist miracle saving the world from poverty. I think it's difficult for people in ideological traditions that have been critical of marxism leninism. For decades to just do an about face. There are a lot of anarchists that oppose China in good faith.
Right now I think we just need to say listen. Now is not the time to be critical of China because it puts comrades and innocent people in danger.
Seems kinda suspect how much it irks you when people call out disinformation. At what point do you admit that it bothers you that were/are a victim of the propaganda I'm calling out?
I love it when people call out misinformation. I find it weird when brand new accounts argue with strawmen like a right winger does, and call much older accounts right wing infiltrators. These two concepts are separate, a fact you seem to be making a willful effort to ignore.
Several users here shilled for a literal paid disinformation warrior for the american regime in the past, or a fake "Chinese communist" site affiliated with american government institutions and disinformation warriors. I know what I'm talking about and I have it all archived.
You are just bored and ignorant, go find a hobby or something.
What site?
https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1275196461341446144
The other notorious one is lausan (impossible to fall for the disinformation of ghouls like wilfred chan):
https://twitter.com/ajitxsingh/status/1372948461767831556
Those are twitter threads tho. Which users here were shilling for them?
Search the names on this site and see what you get. And admit you were wrong.
Why don't you just link them? You said you have everything archived, but you dont want to take 5 seconds to link the one thing that would shut me up immediately?
Because you know that would get me banned. Get a hobby and stop harassing those speaking against blatant disinfo.
Why would that get you banned? It's not against the rules to link to posts, and the mods would thank you for bringing the disinformation to their attention.
Why do you crow so loudly about this all the supposed proof you have, only to clam up when asked to actually produce it? There's absolutely nothing stopping you from completely BTFOing me right now.
There's literally no good reason not to link it.
Not sure what you are trying to argue here, that speaking out against propaganda is wrong? what is a "wrecker"? speaking out against american regime propaganda in an anglo-"community" notorious for being bombarded with it? you realize how suspicious this is? at what point do you admit you just want to be force-fed disnfo to avoid admitting you were wrong (assuming you are honest)?
And please, read and inform yourself rather than base your views on the character of an user. Such reddit brain.
The fact that you're going to this much effort over such an insignificant observation is only making me more sure that something is up.
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They aren't facts, you are just spreading disinformation in line with far-right regimes in deep decline which are scared of China's rise. Keep crying neocon loser.
http://abouthungary.hu/hungary-china-relations/
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