Even by your own telling of history, the revolution only lasted as long as Stalin did. Is he so much better because his project lasted 15 years longer?
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In the face of obvious errors, the reply "Mistakes were made, such is war," can be used to justify literally anything, and as such is meaningless.
So the families of deserters should be subject to arrest, in a case of the desperate situation such that the Soviet Union found itself in? I would like you to be very clear on this. Was it likely an effective policy, or even a defensible policy, to arrest the family of deserters?
Lenin basically adopted Trotsky's idea of permanent revolution (that the proletariat need not wait for the bourgeoisie to inaugurate democracy, but can take power for themselves), so October could be considered proto-Trotskyist.
Look, from the 60s through the 90s, dozens of communists, including Stalin's followers, abandoned the revolutionary project. Lots of people betray causes for money and medals. Trotskyists are no different.
Under Stalin, the party removedd into bureaucracy, which is why we saw the flailing of Kruschev, and ultimately the stagnation of Brezhnev, etc..
More conflation of criticizing Stalin with criticizing the Red Army. Damn, y'all just can't handle critique!
I read Trotsky, not what people had to say about him. Read Stalin too. If you want Lenin's opinion on Stalin, you can read his Testament.
The idea that any and all defense against invasion must never be critiqued for needlessly wasting lives is ridiculous. Stalin had no control over whether the Nazis would invade, of course. I'm criticizing him over the things he DID have control over, like the penal battalions and blocking detachments that wasted manpower.
You keep countering as if I am criticizing anything other than the concrete actions of Joseph Stalin. I'm not criticizing the Red Army, I'm not criticizing Stalin for the fact that Nazis invaded, I'm just criticizing Stalin's actions at the beginning of the war. The idea that a leader should be beyond criticism is worse than even a liberal's caricature of Stalin.
I stan the Red Army, not its incompetent (at least at first) leader during WWII.
If there's anything that you and anticommunists agree on, it's that Stalin was a continuation of the Leninist project.
Socialism in one country my ass.
I'd trust the guy who built the Red Army in the middle of a Civil War more than the guy who killed off its entire officer corps, but that's just me.
These two errors are definitely equivalent.
Yes, the KPD (German Communist Party) policy of "First Hitler, then our turn" was famously successful.
We had freedom fries in my elementary school. Elementary school. I was 10.