Beetle [hy/hym]

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Cake day: October 10th, 2024

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  • I edited my comment to use the same wording as you did (because you didn’t use the phrase terminally online in the first place).

    I don’t think terminally online is a very good phrase anyways because it’s often used to shame people like me who are dependent on online communities. It can be used in the way you describe but I think it’s better to clarify that to avoid a misunderstanding.













  • I made a list compiling the events from a few sources including cestmocro and plant.eenolijfboom on instagram:

    1. Weekend of 2/11 and 3/11: Flyers are spread around football stadium calling for israhelli boycott in football. A pro Palestine protester wearing a keffiyeh gets beaten up by Ajax supporter and ends up in hospital.
    2. Monday 4/11: There’s a call from a pro Palestine group to protest in front of the stadium during the game on Thursday.
    3. Wednesday 6/11 afternoon: Mayor of Amsterdam forbids the protest in front of stadium and also forbids protests on some other locations like the Dam square. Protest is allowed on a location 1km from stadium. Protest organisers are warning protesters to not go on the streets alone while wearing keffiyeh or other Palestinian symbols due to previous attacks.
    4. Wednesday evening: Maccabi supporters tear down Palestinian flags and burn at least one. They also yell racist chants and display banners and stickers glorifying the IOF and genocide. A taxi driver is beaten up by maccabi supporters and his car is destroyed. In a local taxi drivers group there is a call to mobilise in response.
    5. Thursday 7/11 afternoon: Maccabi supporters are in the city chanting fuck you Palestine on Dam square resulting in some fights between pro Palestine protesters and Maccabi supporters. Police arrest some pro Palestine protesters because protesting was not allowed in that area. Other protesters are brought by the police to the assigned location where they are allowed to protest. Protesters aren’t happy with this because they are not in hearing distance of the football game they were protesting against, so in small groups they leave to protest elsewhere. Maccabi supporters on their way to the game are filmed chanting islamophobic phrases. Sources give different translations for the chants, but it’s something along the lines of fuck arabs and Israhelli army will win. According to BDS NL it’s part of a longer song that includes ‘there are no schools in Gaza because there are no children left’.
    6. Thursday during game: Maccabi supporters yell through minute of silence for victims of Spanish floods.
    7. Thursday evening after game: Maccabi hooligans move to city center, do normal hooligan shit but there’s a lot of tension between them and locals for obvious reasons. Lots of taxis are driving near the hooligans honking because of the taxi driver that was beaten up the evening before. Police is surrounding the hooligans while they move through the city center to protect them from locals including the taxis. The pro Palestine protesters are also still in the city in smaller groups sometimes attempting to come near the hooligans but police is holding them back. Police is trying to get the hooligans into busses to bring them to their hotel but a lot of the hooligans escape to roam through the city in smaller groups. This is where they get confronted by pro Palestine protesters who then showed them how welcome they are in Amsterdam. Several Maccabi hooligans get beaten up and get swimming lessons. 5 Maccabi supporters end up in hospital, 20-30 are wounded and 63 protesters are arrested. The police is using the videos to arrest more protesters.

    Edit: added some more details on Thursday evening from the video linked.

    Some additional notes from myself on how media is reacting:

    Note how the police only ever acted to arrest/remove pro Palestine protesters and did not act when protestors were attacked, flags were destroyed, or racist chants were yelled by Maccabi supporters. They’re also calling the protesters ‘rioters’ in their official reports to media and didn’t use a single bad word like ‘hooligan’ or ‘rioter’ for the Maccabi supporters. The one sidedness of the mayor and police is very apparent and people are angry. Amnesty NL is calling the events unacceptable (going with the narrative of the police) and losing credibility as are almost all ‘left’ political parties.

    All large Dutch new outlets yesterday were only reporting on the poor IOF nazis getting beaten up with no word about all the events that came before. This obviously angered people even more and now media are slowly publishing ‘recap’ articles are that mention at least some of the racism and provocation but still go fully with police narrative.

    Antizionist jewish organisations that are speaking out about the hypocrisy are getting completely ignored by media outlets while zionist jews will get exclusive interviews about how afraid they were for weeks to come.



  • The disconnect between the perception of the people vs what is published by news outlets and what politicians are saying is bigger that I’ve ever experienced. This event is opening the eyes of a lot of people around me that called me crazy for saying that the media is biased. It happened during the student encampments as well but I feel like there is a much stronger campaign on social media right now to combat the disinfo that is spread by all our local news outlets.

    Edit: maybe it’s good to add that this disconnect is mostly felt by young people.