Luna [she/her, sie/hir]

I like Dark Mages! Pronouns are she/love/fae/sae/sie, use whichever you like regardless of what's in my username. All I want are more pronoun slots...

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Cake day: June 27th, 2024

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  • Luna [she/her, sie/hir]toMain!!!VOTE DELAYED!!!
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    15 days ago

    I think it can be fun, and it can always be blocked, just like badposting. It can move beyond where it started, it doesn't have to carry the baggage of a user.

    Either way, completely understand if it gets removed. People could always start putting fake news in badposting, since it's bad.







  • CW: Struggle Sesh Mentioned

    People were thinking a brigade (12, I'm not joking) of wrecker alts might be linked to you for some reason. People were freaking out since you're a mod here, but the admins managed to find out it was somebody else.

    At least I think this is what happened, it's all so hard to keep track of. I stayed out of the struggle session, but it has to be the largest I've ever seen.

    I know REgon did a summary in the thread, but the end result is that the admins are trying to clean it up, it became about so much more than the tanks, many people got banned in an ensuing chaos (then unbanned), and then TC69 resigned and deleted hir account.

    Overall a lot happened, I can't even keep track of it all, and look up the user debatebro in the modlog and count how many of them there are.

    Here's the REgon summary (when they say "my side' it's referencing being for a dunking comm, I think).

    I am not going to go thru everything. In part because I am biased, in part because it's all mixed together memory-wise, in part because I get exhausted thinking about it all lol. But here is my best attempt at a somewhat neutral presentation of what went down. At least the big things.

    1. Announcement of minor change - Renaming the dunk/dredgetank + minor change of rules because they were toxic/"chauvinists" (henceforth bigoted, since I'm not from the 50's). Also want to make our rhetoric better.
    2. Users asking questions/arguing against toxicity/bigotry being an inherent trait of the dunk tanks.
    3. Vague and at times slightly rude (though they were not intended as such) preprepared answers given by Carcosa (who was funcctioning as a messenger for the modteam. This also leads to carcosa taking all the blame and catching all the flak, which is really not deserved. We love our carcosa admin folks doggirl-thumbsup )
    4. Critique of the preprepared answers as well as an update to the thread, which didn't address a lot of users' issues (though it did address my issue with rhetoric, which I am very grateful for tysm @CARCOSA@hexbear.net)
    5. Slow unraveling of the "real" reasons the comms were closed, which did not match the reasons originally presented
    6. Now things get bad. The people being supportive of closing the comms dig their heels in. They keep talking about toxicity, but there's no one who acknowledges the arguments from the opposing side (which I need to underline were presented calmly and politely at this point still.)
    7. It becomes clear that it's not about toxicity, in part as users find out there are mods of the closed comms like @replaceable@hexbear.net who just straight up dislike the comms they moderate.
    8. A mod statement is released. It's bad. People are pissed about being called "white cishet he/hims" and not at all being listened to.
    9. A DM is leaked of carcosa some days earlier reaching out to other instances. This has more or less been resolved so don't think about it more. It wasn't okay the way it was done, but it was a rational action.
    10. People get mad at carcosa for the DM - Which is understandable, but now it's generally been resolved so please don't worry about it.**
    11. Carcosa announces that they're stepping down.
    12. TC69 and her famed community administration skills step in.
    13. People beg carcosa not to step down.
    14. Carcosa comes back.
    15. TC69 has only made things a lot worse so far. Lots of bans. Basically just the VCJ strugglesesh all over again.
    16. @SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net announces they are stepping down.
    17. TC69 deletes her account.
    18. @Lyudmila@hexbear.net makes this post we are in now.

    I am skipping a lot of steps. But this is the basic gist of it as I see it, and seeing as how I was one of the Very Mad Online users, I think it at least gives an idea of how people one "my side" of the fence views the situation. I've tried to be somewhat neutral in the presentation of events and moreso just focused on how things unfolded. I did not succeed in this, but if you think this is biased, you should see what I would've done if I tried to be biased.

    ** There are still people around with legitimate grievances about this incident and if they feel like it makes sense I warmly and genuinely welcome them to expand upon those in response to this thread, but my impression is that we have generally moved past this point, so just please take it for granted that it's not important. If you talk to someone and it sounds important, then look into it, but most people will arrive at the position that it is no longer important, given where we are now at. It was fair to be mad about. It was also a rational action on carcosas' side. It's also fair not to find it fair. It is however, subjectively, not a big deal, at least not anymore.

    Edit was me adding REgon comment and fixing formating and adding containment CW.





  • Luna [she/her, sie/hir]
    hexagon
    tobadpostingoh hey, a post on main. i love main!
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    15 days ago

    Also I went through the effort of counting and editing to make sure there were a certain amount of deep-nesting emojis, feel free to count, as a little easter egg.

    egg spoiler

    There's 69 of them. Usually this would just be a funny number, and it still mainly is! It has no other meaning at all catgirl-happy

    Edit: Main Rule