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Israel murdered more children in 30 days than the supposedly genocidal Russian army has in ultrathin in 560 days.
Curb your whataboutism, will you?
Equating Israel with Jewishness is antisemitic.
I agree with that statement but in this context it's just a lazy pseudo argument without actual relevance. Israel was founded by Jews, with the intention to create a country where Jews can be safe and the majority of it's citizens today are Jews. There is a star of David on that flag for a reason, you know. So while it is wrong to equate Israel with Jewishness, simply because one can be a Jew anywhere and independently of Israel, it is also trivial that Israel is obviously a jewish country and because of that, a meme accusing all of it's citizens of being child murderers, clearly plays with the old antisemitic trope that accuses Jews of murdering christian children.
Israel is an apartheid state, this isn’t new, this isn’t something that the current government did, this is the establishing principle of the state that has been held up since the start
I of course know and absolutely condemn that, again what is your point?
Calling an apartheid state “diverse” like you did in your first post is absolutely incorrect and is not close to the reality of the situation in any way shape or form, it’s pure propaganda
Nope, Israel is the most diverse country in the whole region without question and it is also also the only democracy in the region. Other countries in the region are monarchies or (often military) dictatorships. On top of that, Israel is also the only country in the region that has womens and LGBTQ+ rights written into it's law, while in all other countries in the region women are being oppressed second class citizens and LGBTQ+ have to fear for their life constantly.
having suffered in the past does not give a group of people free reign to commit those same acts against a separate unaffiliated population
Agreed but sadly, when we look at history, it seems to happen quite often, no matter if we like it or not.
having an ethnostate in the first place is not a good goal, but even if we said it was necessary, doing it through the ethnic cleansing and genocide of another group is not at all justifiable in any way.
I fully agree with that statement. However this does not justify generalizing all Israeli citizens as child murderers.
treating things as if jews are simply different from regular people and could never survive as a minority in another country so they should not be judged by the same standard we apply to everyone is in itself an anti-semitic view to have, jews are regular people
I fully agree with you that jews are just people like everyone else but we should also consider the regular antisemitic pogroms that happened throughout history, which are an obvious motivation for a community to get their own safe space in the world.
committing genocide and ethnic cleansing is bad, whoever does it and however noble their goal is doesn’t change that fact.
Absolutely agree. Please keep in mind that I in fact never apologized any of the crimes of the IDF or the illegal settlers. All I did was criticizing the antisemitic generalization of all citizens of Israel as casual child murderers. Sadly it seems like most people's opinions are simply too polarized to get such nuances at this point.
Quote or it never happened (hint: I never wrote anything like that). Also, mind your manners please.
What about the name? Honest question.
And please stop playing down Nazis, that is REALLY not ok.
You must be hallucinating, I never wrote that both sides commit genocide because that is not my opinion.
Quote or it did not happen ...
I know about modlog of course, what are even you implying? Also, please behave, no reason to get offensive.
I have been criticizing the the right-extremist government, the child murdering military and the illegal settlers of Israel, just like I have been criticizing the child murdering terrorists from Hamas. I will continue doing so despite getting attacked by islamophobic racists from the right and antisemites from the left. Sorry, not sorry.
I wrote a lot, not all, so there is no contradiction.
I think you accidentally misplaced your post, this is not the piggy poo poo fetish community. I Hope you will find a place to satisfy you kink, good luck!
You are absolutely wrong, but I can understand that a superficial look at the discussion can give this impression. However, I argue with anti-Germans whenever I find myself in the same room with them. They position themselves just as indiscriminately as you do here, only in the opposite direction. Anti-Germans are even in solidarity with the right-wing extremist, colonialist Israeli government. To be honest, I can no more identify with anti-German Israel-fetishists who hate Palestinians than I can with the anti-Semitic, Israel-hating Palestine-fetishists here. Both camps are obviously fanatical and far from objective.
Israel is not Judaism and it’s not an ethnic group by your own admission. The idea that the Jewish people employ dark magic rituals that murder and consume children is antisemitic.
Sure, that is why I called it out when i saw the meme ...
The idea that the police and military of Israel, with the public at broad’s supports, kills children in the interest of national security is not.
Ask ultra-orthodox Israelis about this, you will be surprised.
We can distinguish between the two. You don’t seem to separate them, which is antisemitic.
You just claimed that the majority of Israeli citizens supports child murder, at the same time you are perfectly aware that this majority is Jewish, now who is being antisemitic?
Why do you ignore all the arguments I made? Got nothing to counter I guess?