grabbed a copy, thanks!

Jfc did we drive her away AGAIN!?

She was a terrible admin and left after the predictable and justified pushback.

it's always been a terrible comm, don't understand why it was protected so long.

Irrelevant now but I've had it blocked since before Melina was banned. I should check it out again before actually voting.

ok, yeah. That was incredibly tone-deaf.

I like this, only show them if you're logged in

I think the main takeaway from the Melina/Beluga/dsplayer situation is that the correct way to handle a consistently shitty user isn't to make them a moderator. I mean come on.

We all told AlaskaBall to go fuck themselves last night very directly

Is this about banning themself as a bit or something else?

Minor clarification on 9: it wasn't a leaked DM, it was a message in a public chatroom

Our admins are all trusted, long-time users in good standing. We regularly browse, comment, and post on our main accounts. You post and chat with us daily as comrades, and we value all of you. You may not recognize the usernames on our admin accounts because we regularly swap the alts used for admin privileges. This is why you'll see really old or unused alt accounts as well as really new accounts on the admin team.

This really makes it impossible to build trust in the admins. The admins are vetted by who, other admins? They might be "in good standing" but there are users in this site who are in good standing who I wouldn't want in charge.

Take SalvadorWALL_E for example. This account was sitting dormant for 2 years, got promoted to admin in the middle of a heated struggle session, pissed some people off, then was purged. Was this an existing admin who wanted deflect heat? A trusted user who got promoted, immediately fucked up and got demoted? A trusted user who got promoted, immediately fucked up, and is going to continue being an admin on another account?

I understand that it's for opsec and I'm not telling you to stop using alts, but I'm not giving the benefit of the doubt to accounts with little-to-no history.

https://hexbear.net/post/3873140

TC69 isn't particularly anti-vegan, she just decided to take action against us instead of addressing the sitewide issues. Again I really don't she's the same person.

If you're thinking of Catradora_Stalinism HelltakerHomosexual, I really don't think they're TC69, but they are the mod some users are accusing of being the wrecker (an admin said they know for a fact this isn't true)."Fucking over vegans" was banning all discussions of veganism outside of their comms and removing all the VCJ mods. Frankly a lot of the userbase probably agreed with these decisions but I strongly oppose them.

Edit: more accurately, HelltakerHomosexual is being accused of being the wrecker and also of being banned user Catradora_Stalinism. An admin stated that they confirmed Helltaker is not the wrecker. I don't have a strong opinion on whether either of these are true.

I'm one of the people telling you you're wrong. I'm also one of the people TC69 just banned, and I taunted her publicly after she deleted her account. I have a 3 year grudge against her for fucking over the hexbear vegans.

You're still wrong about this.

As of a few days ago I think

She didn't start it but she took it upon herself to make it worse.

Glad she's giving her keycaps a break and taking some deep breaths

Do we get an actual reason for REgon's ban? Modlog says "Please give your keycaps a break and take some deep breaths."

It wasn't mandatory. I was there.

I scrolled past those threads without interacting and faced absolutely no consequences or criticism for it. There was no expectation to engage, just that you don't engage negatively.