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Go fuck yourself

The ones who deliberately beat pigs or throw chickens around for fun, yeah definitely. But I've read about the experience of some other slaughterhouse workers, in general they are poorer and have no other decent job options in their shitty small town. The main requirement is mentally detaching yourself from reality, which some people can do temporarily, but most of of them get some ptsd, some become alcoholics, or more violent, etc, so it's not as black and white as someone who wanted to be a cop their whole life. Maybe the worst animal abusers in this video are coping in the most fucked up way possible, I'm not a psychologist.

I wish we could just get rid of the worst aspects of this, but growing animals really quickly and killing them when they're this young is the only way to realistically meet demand. And unfortunately grass fed or "free range" animals use more land and resources. If hypoethically we could make the process 10% less cruel, but it would require even more subsidies, I'm not sure I'd be for that either.

Like what? Lol

So therefore, we should stop buying fish then?

https://youtu.be/VizpLk263iM

Sorry for my unnecessary hostility, I assumed you were one of the fuck vegans people here, which seems to be almost everyone.

How am I denying anything? All I said is fishing is cruel... not "wrong". Everyone here is already aware that pretty much everyone everywhere has to contribute to something awful in order to make money, and that's a completely seperate issue. Fishing and eating fish is not necessary for our health and well being, we do it because fish tastes good so theres a market for that. I'm not saying fuck people who fish, if anything vegans are saying the opposite since fishing is so dangerous to the people doing it, and damaging to the environments humans occupy. As if I should hate people forced work in slaughterhouses only to have their hands cut off and permanent ptsd.

Well that's not what you asked and it can obviously be cruel and necessary. But for 99.9% of people, it isnt necessary.

You changed the argument from "it isnt cruel" to "what if you had to eat a fish to survive". I'm making fun of you because this shit is extremely tired.

WHAT IF YOU WERE ON AN ISLAND HUH????

Sure try to change the argument

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Humans bad

Simmer lentils ($1 per lb) in veggie broth, spices and a bay leaf or roast chickpeas (less than $1 per can) with oil and spices for cheap and easy protein. Have a couple handfuls of mixed nuts and seeds everyday for healthy fat. Add cruciferous vegetables like broccoli and collar greens to meals when possible. You only need 0.4-0.5 grams of protein per lb of body weight, 0.6 if you work out all the time.