• 0 Posts
  • 19 Comments
Joined 1 year ago
cake
Cake day: August 14th, 2023

help-circle






  • I understand and agree with a lot of what you are saying. I'd also like to thank you for being candid and factual about the topic. It's a nice change.

    I guess where that breaks down for me has to do with why they wait so long to execute in the first place, if not for some protections being present in general.

    I guess it's not really a solvable or understandable problem from the perspective I have that it's all unjust regardless of what they do. Maybe waiting like that does serve a monetary purpose to some influence somewhere.


  • Ok, supply vs demand is a valid point. I'll give you that.

    But the act of requiring the chemicals in the first place, as opposed to just hanging or shooting, echos the protection of the 8th (separate, relevant ammendment) anyway, what with cruel and unusual punishment not being allowed.

    I kind of don't get how the people here can be shown evidence of a system working in accordance with the constitution and then whole sale espouse the notion that the US doesn't afford any kind of protection whatsoever.

    Again, I believe that there is no just murder by the state. An dead man cannot be exonerated. But it's a little dishonest to imply that it's all a racket and that we're just lining these guys up to kill willy nilly.


  • Ok, and you don't think that if they weren't explicitly concerned with the appeals process or the questionable mental health of the prisoner, that they wouldn't just execute them immediately?

    Again, I'm not here saying that unjust deaths don't happen. I'm saying that the reason they wait so long in the first place is due process.

    So you tell me in your own words: if not for at least the illusion of due process, what do you think is the reason that the grand majority of inmates spend years waiting?





  • In addition to what the other guys said, it's a common practice for death row inmates in the US to sit in prison for years, and sometimes decades, before they get put down. The reasoning to my understanding is that you can't exonerate a dead man. They give plenty of time for appeals and additional evidence as a due course of justice for a fair trail as preserved by the 6th ammendment.






  • I'd get a team of the best lawyers I could find to sit down with the genie and me to hash out a lengthy contract devoiding any intentional curse and put in a hefty monetary incentive for the lawyers to get it right, as well as punishment clauses for breaking it, then wish that the genie had to unwaveringly abide by that contract. That way, if he makes me suffer he has to suffer too or redo my request to my satisfaction.

    Then I'd probably write in a steady, better than average and reasonably liveable income without having to work for it for the rest of my natural life.

    Pretty sure I saw this concept in an early episode of fairly odd parents.